by James Tracy
On November 21 a press release reproduced below announcing Amazon’s censorship of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook was sent to almost 23,000 news media outlets by Sherwood Ross Associates, a Miami Florida-based public relations firm. Thus far almost without exception the press release has been ignored, representing a wall-to-wall media blackout of the internet powerhouse’s incredible act of suppression.
Further, journalists at those very media now have an opportunity to download the book for free and judge the validity of the research.
Here is the breakdown of media receiving the press release:
Black Weeklies – 183
TV Networks – 11
Local TV Stations – 1428
AM Radio – 7560
FM Radio – 6766
Dailies – 1404
Weeklies – 5586
Total: 22,838
Amazon.com has banned the book NOBODY DIED AT SANDY HOOK: IT WAS A FEMA DRILL TO PROMOTE GUN CONTROL from its list without giving the co-authors any specific reasons.
The book—-which presents hundreds of proofs that the shootings at Newtown, Connecticut’s Sandy Hook Elementary School (SHES) on Dec. 14, 2012, were a staged, elaborate hoax—-had enjoyed a brisk sale of around 500 copies since Amazon initially offered it on Oct. 22, of this year.
The book was removed by Amazon Nov. 19, after less than a month and despite nearly 80 reviews, where those who had actually read it gave it 5-stars and those who had not only 1.
“The whole Sandy Hook operation was a sloppily staged fraud perpetrated by FEMA in collusion with local and state authorities,” said the book’s editor, Professor Emeritus James Fetzer of the University of Minnesota, Duluth, a former U.S. Marine Corps officer.
“None of those allegedly 20 slain children were killed,” Fetzer said. “This looms as a far bigger scandal for the Obama administration than the simple burglary at Watergate ever was for President Nixon.” He termed Amazon’s action, an “egregious act of censorship.”
In response to Amazon’s action, which the bookseller termed “suppression,” Fetzer and the series editor, newsman Mike Palecek, decided to offer the book free of charge on the Internet at http://rense.com/general96/nobodydied.html
The 425-page book presents 12 chapters exposing the complicity of local and federal authorities, and includes as a 19-page appendix titled “The FEMA Manual for Sandy Hook” (subtitled “Site Activation Call-down Drill Exercise Plan”), which outlines the event as a two-day drill operation.
The FEMA Manual states, “The preparation for Mass Casualty is a drill designed to establish a learning environment for players to exercise emergency response plans, policies, and procedures as they pertain to a mass casualty incident involving children.”
Fetzer says that local conspirators in Newtown, such as the alleged parents of the murdered children, have made out very well financially soliciting contributions from a gullible public and that Newtown has been showered with aid, including $50 million to build a new school. This compares with the $7 million typical construction budget for an elementary school.
Among the scores of proofs of the hoax at Sandy Hook offered by the co-authors include:
* Local individuals, as well as the United Way, went on line soliciting funds in the name of the slain children BEFORE the December 14th shootings. How could they have known?
Fetzer notes his book contains photos of some of the Internet donation pages soliciting funds before the alleged massacre!
* A swat team was photographed at SHES in front of a classroom whose windows, later shot out, were still intact. Crime scene tape is already in place for a crime not yet committed.
* By what miraculous process did the Newtown Bee newspaper get an interview with SHES Principal Dawn Hochsprung hours after she was allegedly killed by shooter Adam Lanza? (The paper later apologized to its readers.)
* The book presents evidence that SHES was closed BY 2008; that there were no students to evacuate; and that Lanza appears to be “a work of fiction.”
* The only death certificate available for any of the 20 dead children is a fabrication and the annual FBI crime report for 2012 lists no murders at Newtown.
Fetzer writes, “The teachers, the parents, the Newtown School Board, the State Police, the Medical Examiner, and Governor Dan Malloy apparently were all in on the hoax.”
The Fetzer-Palecek book, after presenting dozens and dozens of examples of fraud, concludes that the Newtown “massacre” was, in fact, “an elaborate psy-op to promote gun control, which was supported by then Attorney General Eric Holder and the President of the United States.”
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I just wanted to say how utterly thrilled I am that you are gone.
I also wanted you to know how hard I worked to get Jim to go for moderation, and I owe it all to you.
Now I have found your past writings, Dennis Chamberlain, and see you have been spewing garbage for years.
I am so very grateful you and your garbage are now where you belong.
See ya!
Buh Bye!
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Steve12:
You seem to be hung up on "evidence". What evidence do we have that children died at Sandy Hook? What evidence do we have that planes crashed at any of the 911 alleged "crash" sites? Do we have any evidence that ObamaRahm-a ws born in America? Why aren't the "authorities" producing convincing evidence? The burden of proof (impeccable evidence) in all these HOAXES is on the "authorities" who are making wild, unscientific, illogical, unsubstantiated claims!
On the basis of available evidence, the Sandy Hook shooting was a HOAX! Same for the 911 NO PLANES case! Fetzer (in all his various claims) presents the most convincing evidence and makes the most logical and compelling case! He is right! – unless someone can PROVE him wrong with better (contrary) evidence!
To all you anonymouses (anonymi?)
Could you put some nom de plume in your post so we can tell which of you anonymi are speaking? I would like to put together your threads please.
Find a Judge in some court which would order the exhumation of one of the alleged victims. Many witnesses including Professor Fetzer must be permitted to be present at the exhumation and pictures must be permitted of the inside of the casket when opened. If the casket contains more than just air inside it, those remains must be scientifically tested to first determine if they are animal or human. If they are human, they must be further tested by at least two top, independent scientific laboratories to determine if they indeed are the remains of the alleged victim buried in that casket in secret in a closed casket ceremony with no true convincing death certificate either. Or, find one of the alleged families of one of the alleged dead victims who will agree to allow these tests to be made on a voluntary exhumation of one of the victims. Other safeguards would have to be provided if these tests were to be believable and convincing. Secrecy is the enemy of the truth. Good Luck.
This is like all authorities are taking a massive “Fifth Amendment” about these crimes refusing to divulge anything or any facts known to them. If this were a crime they were personally charged with committing, one might conclude they were all guilty because this is what most people assume when one takes the “Fifth” don’t they? Obviously the authorities have something very powerful they are hiding don’t they? This not “conspiracy theory”. This is science to use the rules and laws of science and physics to discover what we mean by “truth”. One does not discover the truth by hiding facts and information at the point of a government gun.
If some of you don’t like all the facts presented by Professor Fetzer et al, then don’t just provide hot air because hot air won’t dispute or contradict any of the evidence they have provided. Provide some facts yourselves which contradict their evidence if indeed you are mentally capable of doing so. Ad hominem attacks don’t contradict anything. Here is a suggestion which, if you could accomplish it, would disprove the claims by Professor Fetzer: Con't.
Obviously they are afraid of some horrible consequences if they open the crimescene up to the light of truth and light of day. Could they be hiding the fact that perhaps there were no bullet holes in those walls inside that school in Sandy Hook? Could they be hiding the possibility that there were no dead bodies inside that school that day in December almost 3 years ago? Could they be so defensive with any legitimate and reasonable questions that they might be hiding a lie about this whole scenario or hoax or horrible fraud perpetuated on a gullible and duped public? If it was not a lie, then why all the defensive behavior by everyone involved from the top on down? Professor Fetzer and associates have provided hundreds if not thousands of pieces of evidence which, when taken together, contradict the official version of events that day December 14, 2012 in Newtown, Connecticut. This is indirect evidence because all the direct evidence has been kept a carefully guarded secret at the point of a gun or guns by the full military force and power of all governments involved Federal, State of Connecticut, Newtown Police Dept. and even the local gutless and defensive school board. Con't.
. Again, this information, if it exists at all, was kept a carefully guarded secret by the full military force and power of government in Connecticut. There were no 200+ page autopsy reports made public by the office of the medical examiner for each of the 26 victims. There were no pictures of the dead bodies shown at the alleged crime scene or buried in caskets because all caskets were closed or hidden keeping that vital information a carefully guarded secret just like almost every other aspect of this alleged horrible crime. Even the wrecking crew which demolished the alleged crime scene building was sworn to secrecy under threats of criminal sanctions if they revealed anything about it. The same is true for the alleged home of the alleged shooter and his Mother. Even the school board would not even honestly and openly answer simple questions when requested and their lawyer even obstructed questions and freedom of information requests for basic information. Obviously, all this secrecy, forced at the point of the guns provided by the military force of Connecticut and Federal U.S. Government power, leads one to suspect something is very wrong in “Dodge”. Why all this secrecy? What are they hiding?'
Con't.
Another 5 star review:
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SECRECY IS THE ANTITHESIS OF TRUTH, November 3, 2015
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“The jails are full of petty thieves but the grand thieves are running the country.” Howard Zinn, Ph.D. History.
To all those who have criticized professor Fetzer and associates, but not provided a single iota of new information or facts or contradictory evidence to dispute one word they wrote about the apparent Sandy Hook Hoax: It would have been better and even more convincing to have been able to provide more direct evidence of the crime scene, such as, pictures of the inside of the school showing bullet holes in walls, dead bodies of the victims, blood splattered on floors and walls, etc., however gruesome and unpleasant those pictures might have been. But, unlike most other similar gruesome crimes in this country, such evidence was prohibited and kept hidden by the full military force and power of government. It would also have been nice if they could have had forensic DNA and other evidence proving each dead victim was indeed the person claimed in media reports. Con't.
Goldstein, u're just another pathetic joke, AGAIN. Note it's barely worthwhile now to even respond to ur pathetic, moronic posts, brainless scum, ho ho ho ho
Here is another 5 star review of the book "Nobody Died at Sandy Hook It was a FEMA Drill to Promote Gun Control" which was scrubbed by Amazon without notice or explanation or justification when they suppressed this great book from their shelves without explanation. It should also be noted that Amazon is being funded by the Wall Street Gambling Casino which has become rich off the zero percent interest rates which have been shafting all the senior citizens in the country out of their life savings. Amazon unethically and possibly criminally undercuts all completion and puts all local businesses out of business and destroys our communities. Amazon should be shut down.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant investigating- Great read, November 6, 2015
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If you want to know what really happened at Sandy Hook this is the book to read. I really appreciate the patriots like Jim Fetzer who have stepped up to do the investigating that "professional mainstream journalists" are no longer allowed to do. The only victims of Sandy Hook are the people that believe the hoax actually happened. Very well written book. Lays it all out. By the end you will know without a shadow of a doubt that our freedoms are being taken away through a systematic, planned process using staged false flag terror events. The govt has billions to spend on these hoaxes. Stand by for many more. America is being attacked from the INSIDE.
Nothing changes, only the times have changed. Storytelling conspiracy theories are intended to entertain and distract those who are gullible and lack critical thinking skills. (e.g. Gladiators, Chariots, and the Roman Games used to keep the poor and unemployed entertained and occupied in the hopes that they would not revolt.)
Some people like to argue about their opinions of their ideas of theories of speculation of opinions of views but there is no evidence that “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.” Even the snarky Dr. Fetzer knows this. The “tell” was Dr. Fetzer’s and Mr. Halbig’s meeting in front of the Sandy Hook School Board. Dr. Fetzer, in front of the School Board, did not say “nobody died,” but the contrary. Dr. Fetzer acknowledged that people died at the Sandy Hook shooting event. Again, this was in front of the school board. So it appears that Dr. Fetzer doesn’t want to be charged with “defrauding the government” by lying in front of the School Board. But on Dr. Fetzer’s radio show and other “entertainment” shows, Dr. Fetzer claims that nobody died. So the evidence reveals that Dr. Fetzer knows it is a federal crime to defraud the government. 3:44 to 6:03
https://youtu.be/Sy_3U-eYLqM
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Desperate Psycho, Schizoid, "Neuro-Scientist" Lies, Fails, Again, Ho Ho Ho Ho
No stevie, LYING, psycho, schizoid "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho. U presume psychotically about "level of power," which u know little about. And I didn't ONLY talk about "consent fm people."
And u don't demonstrate "they didn't get consent," presumptuous moron, psycho "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho
And I didn't "dodge" any rational, question that made any sense.
Stevie: I now believe u're same as "Stevie Waddock" of Keith Johnson channel, ho ho ho–same psychotic, single-minded schizoidal traits, ho ho ho ho ho
U gotta face it stevie, psycho, schizoid and "neuro-scientist," u've FAILED (again) to disprove conspiracy, sucker, ho ho ho ho ho
I'm sure you believe that. Your mom will be bringing breakfast down to you in the basement in a matter of hours so get some shut eye – Ok buddy?
Dodge, dodge, dodge. I summed up your defeat below.
Well stevie, psycho, schizoid, "neuro-scientist," I'm gonna call it a night, buddy. Consider urself refuted, buddy, ho ho ho ho
A quick recap of my through debunking:
1. I ask why a cabal that controls all of the governments, all of the financial institutions, the military, and the WEATHER need to do silly operations like Sandy Hook considering the power they currently wield. Why would anyone with this level of power worry this much about handgun laws?
2. Apsterian et al. say that they (form some bizarre reason) need to get consent from the people.
3. I ask why they didn't get consent to do the horrible shit they've done already
4. Apsterian dodges the question in every imaginable manner, embarrassing himself along the way.
Ho ohho hoho ho–how do u know they didn't? Ho ho ho ho oho
Hey are u same as Steve Waddock of Keith Johnson channel fame?–I think u are, aren't u? ho ho ho ho–same little solipsistic, schizoid psycho u are, ho ho ho ho
Why didn't the people behind 9/11, Sandy Hook, JFK, etc. get consent?
Ho ho ho ho–ok stevie, psycho, schizoid "neuro-scientist"–whatever u say, buddy.
BUT, u haven't proven anything or dis-proven conspiracy, sucker–except, of course, within ur own little psychotic, solipsistic mind, ho ho ho ho ho
Stevie, psycho, schizoid "neuro-scientist": what "purveyors"?–what "conspiracies" are u even talking about, u little psycho schizoid moron?–how does anyone know what u're talking about, fool?
This is ur moronic, psychotic method of dis-proving "conspiracy"?–u've lost miserably, sucker–get a clue, fool, ho ho ho ho ho
Perseverate much? You've now called me a neuroscientist 26 times. You're a weirdo.
Why didn't the purveyors of these conspiracies get consent then?
In the clip Malloy is referring to prepared for a mass shooting, whereas that fat idiot asks him specifically about Sandy Hook.
This is why you believe stupid things. Your rules of evidence are shit
Steve12 November 29, 2015 at 12:29 AM
Apsterian:
"I only agree that the victims of criminals do have to "consent" to an extent to allow the criminals to succeed w. their crimes."
* * * * * * *
Yes, stevie the psycho, schizoid "neuro-scientist," so what's ur pt.? Ho ho ho ho ho
Apsterian:
"I only agree that the victims of criminals do have to "consent" to an extent to allow the criminals to succeed w. their crimes."
Steve12 November 29, 2015 at 12:17 AM
"Why did the Jews who started wars not get consent?"
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Ho ho ho–WHAT are u even talking about, stevie?–u psycho schizoid "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho
No stevie, psycho, schizoid "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho oho–they'll just remark ur nonsensical, non-specific question, that's all, ho ho ho ho
And u've been answered more than sufficiently, noting ur moronic question that doesn't deserve an answer as it makes no sense, ho ho ho ho ho
Well, stevie the schizoidal psycho "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho, I'd say u went on to babble, not making too much sense but to playing stupid mind-games, pretending u've accomplished anything, making any point.
Yes, we understand u work for Jews, denying conspiracy–but u didn't prove anything beyond ur own psychotic schizoidal personality, the "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho ho
Anyone reading this is just gonna think you're full of shit because you won't answer
Why did the Jews who started wars not get consent?
What?–what are u talking about stevie, the schizoid "neuro-scientist"?–what "fatal flaws"?–what "simple questions"?–what "ideas"? Ho ho ho ho
Stevie: don't u get it?–u make no sense, merely vaguely referring in general manner to non-specific items, ho ho ho–that's schizoid behavior, stevie, did u know that? U're "loser," stevie–except in ur own solipsistic mentality, ho ho ho ho. But great work, buddy; u're a genius, for sure, ho ho ho ho ho oho
Stevie: did u see the vid of Wolfgang Halbig asking Gov. Malloy about his statement at earlier press conf. regarding having been spoken to? See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FThj8Qm1tvM
So what's going on in that vid, stevie, the "neuro-scientist"?–why's Malloy lying? Ho ho ho–tell us.
Quite the opposite – I've identified fatal flaws that no one here can answer for. Just look at you! You can't answer simple questions about your own ideas!
You lose; no points.
Just want to again express my absolute glee at the news that that Fetzer may not be able to make quite as much blood money off the backs of those poor people how lost their children.
Stevie: anyone reading this can clearly see u want one thing: to ridicule the idea of conspiracy; u failed.
But I don't deny u have urself convinced, buddy, ho ho ho ho–so I guess u can claim victory, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho
Anyone reading this can clearly see that you refuse to answer the question.
The Sooooo "Clever" Jewwy–Convinces Himself, Anyway–Victory, Ho Ho Ho
Ho ho ho ho–stevie, u don't seem to grasp u're exposed for the moronic, schizoid game u're trying to play–WITH URSELF, in all reality, ho ho ho ho. U're a riot, though, sooooooooooooo clever, ho ho ho ho.
And now the world sees, once again, what u Jew-friendly die-hard deniers of conspiracy really are–schizoids who play games w. urself, imagining u've proven or won any pt., ho ho ho ho ho
WHY DID THEY NOT GET CONSENT!!!??!!!
Jewwy Is Genius, Truly, For Affirming His Empty Assertions
And note further, "[y]our guys' theories defeat themselves." (Steve12 November 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM)–u fail to specify a particular theory here too, ho ho ho ho ho
But we must admit, u have urself convinced, don't u Jewwy puke? ho ho ho ho
And please answer the "hot Jew" question please.
"Don't u get it?–u blew it when u demanded an answer to nonsensical question regarding, "Why didn't they get consent for wars, assassinations, etc?" (Steve12 November 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM)–as u failed to specify what particular "wars, assassinations, etc.," ho ho ho ho oho"
Uhhh…no. They're responsible for some wars and assassinations – right? I don't know which ones you think they're responsible for!
So for whichever ones you think they are responsible for, WHY DID THEY NOT GET CONSENT!!!??!!!
Why can't you answer a simple question?
The Schizoid Jewwy Out-Smarts Himself, Ho Ho Ho
Ho ho hoo–so tell us Jewwy–what do u mean, "[t]he whole theory is just wrong"? (Steve12 November 28, 2015 at 11:19 PM)–what "theory" are u talking about, u pathetic schizoid moron? Ho ho ho ho ho
Sucker: u've just been exposed, buddy–trying to deny reality, the fact of conspiracy.
See, u want to rule-out even the possibility of existence of conspiracy in ur Jewwy schizoid mentality, the "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho ho
Don't u get it?–u blew it when u demanded an answer to nonsensical question regarding, "Why didn't they get consent for wars, assassinations, etc?" (Steve12 November 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM)–as u failed to specify what particular "wars, assassinations, etc.," ho ho ho ho oho
Apsterian, be honest here: would you bang a hot Jew? Are you so committed to your deal that even if you could lose you virginity you'd still say no if it was a jew?
And you gotta drop the "ho ho ho". It's weird. Definitely not funny if that's what you were going for.
This whole weird/creepy routine you have going is why you can't get laid, BTW. You gotta drop your whole deal dude. Total remake.
Don't blame yourself, of course; there is no answer. The whole theory is just wrong.
So much writing to not answer the question…
Stupid Punk Who Refuses To Accept Reality And Facts Of Conspiracy Set Straight For Moronic Presumption, Ho Ho Ho
Ho ho ho ho–u're soooo goddam stupid and intent upon ur moronic pre-conceived conclusion, u're actually funny, stupid, brainless puke–"neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho
U imagine anyone has to answer ur brainless, moronic question–OR ELSE, suddenly dumbass, dipshit, puke like u "WINS," ho ho ho. It doesn't occur to stupid scum like u ur question is patently stupid. I swear to God, u brainless piece-of-shit, u live in ur own little child's world, imagining anyone is required to play ur stupid, moronic games by which u win so easily, as it has to go by ur idiot rules, ho ho ho ho
U can't figure-out, u're such a stupid piece-of-shit driving for ur pre-conceived conclusion, that in order for a criminal conspiracy to succeed, the victims go in for their being duped, for whatever reason.
The idiot question u pose is moronic on its face: what "wars assassinations, etc." are u even talking about? Schizoid puke: "wars, assassinations, etc.," are always specific in nature, existing within specific circumstances and historic settings, ho ho ho ho ho. So I just let ur moronic question hang there by itself, dangling in proverbial "wind," don't u see. Sure as shit, presumptuous puke like urself imagined it was quite sufficient and meaningful to deserve an answer, ho ho ho ho–joke is on u, moron.
Stupid punk moron: we've entertained u quite enough–as anyone can see now by the number of entries here, over 80, total, so many of them having to do w. ur stupid comments and idiot questions regarding subject of conspiracy which it is ur Jew-friendly, Jew-serving, pre-conceived opinion doesn't exist, regardless the US Declaration of Independence and its EXPLICIT account, and New Test., and its account, ho ho ho ho ho.
Don't u get it, fool?–we've strung u along here merely to demonstrate ur deliberate, repeated stupidity and pretending u just can't see what so many others see fairly easily.
So look, dumbass: don't be disappointed if u're not indulged anymore for any further responses to ur stupid questions pretending u just can't register facts of reality regarding conspiracy, ok "neuro-scientist"? Ho ho ho ho hoo
Not completely true. I said that I was happy the book would make no money for Fetzer, and then went on to say why this conspiratorial worldview is nonsense. It's related enough.
"Why didn't they get consent for wars, assassinations, etc?"
No answer? The simplest of questions. Your guys' theories defeat themselves. They're internally contradictory.
That's ur moronic opinion, scum, ho ho ho hoo.
Note Fetzer's article, written by Tracy, has to do w. censorship/suppression and the cultural/sociologic consequences–and these consequences are what is duly discussed in comments section, dumbass.
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What is stopping you from taking a gun, a laptop, a portable generator and a TV from walking in to some tribe in "the jungle" and setting yourself up as a god?
You could do it…
Isn't the "universe" set up as a microcosm/macrocosm? Like a solar system/atom?
If there are other beings, couldn't it be true that most are good and some are bad?
I encourage you to look deeply at the disclosure project, project camelot.
If these super powered creatures wanted us dead or enslaved, it would be so.
Star Trek has some great stories that adress this stuff.
All the best.
So I guess this is what you get when you have a no moderation comments section–comments which have nothing to do with the original post.
Apsterian, now that you are toning down the verbiage, I am able to see to the depth of your passion and insight.
I no longer believe you are any sort of "plant," but a deeply knowledgable and determined reader and seeker. Your anger is utterly appropriate.
I would love to engage in a real conversation with you, and forget the rather creative insults that have been slung about in the past.
Deal?
I think your anger and passion, which I also feel, can be harnessed through dialogue, debate and even compromise, to lead toward solutions.
You have really made an effort to step back from the personal attacks, and I thank you. It helps me see to the real Apsterian, a person who is righteously angry and damned well informed.
Sometimes that same anger overwhelms me, and I can barely communicate. Boy do I relate!
Could we have a dialogue where we seek to learn from and understand each other?
Signed,
Your lapbobbing friend,
Activist Angel
Why didn't they get consent for wars, assassinations, etc?
Fine – but it doesn't tell you anything about aliens and conspiracies. For tgat you actually do need evidence.
Steve12:
Ever hear of "Amazing Grace" (I once was blind – but now I SEE!)? SEEing the spiritual realm is not a matter of "evidence" – it's a matter of "being born-again from Above". It's ONLY obtainable by Divine Grace! Divine Grace is usually obtained when you have come to your wits' end through great suffering and plead to God for help!
Correct: I don't agree w. "Godsend"–his expo is all his own. I only agree that the victims of criminals do have to "consent" to an extent to allow the criminals to succeed w. their crimes.
OK. So if I understand that rambling response, Apsterian thinks GodSend is full of shit, and there are no aliens conspiring – just jews.
Godsend – do you think Jews are working with the aliens?
"The "evidence" is personal experience and spiritual understanding. You either experienced it and have obtained spiritual understanding ("you MUST be born-again from Above") – or you did not."
That's not evidence of any kind. It's your emotional reaction, and that's fine. But it's not evidence for factual propositions, e.g., aliens are neurotic. It's not even evidence for aliens.
The "evidence" is personal experience and spiritual understanding. You either experienced it and have obtained spiritual understanding ("you MUST be born-again from Above") – or you did not.
I've made a mistake above. You wanted clarification on my use of "real world", which is fair.
I mean that you want to drop out of the mundane, everyday responsibilities of modern life.
Under Subjectivist Conditions, Jews Naturally Dominate
Well, I explained it in my above expositions. (a) First, note the general circumstances, the CYCLIC "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, whence a successful civilization now becomes sated and over-populated w. HUBRISTIC weaklings and inferiors who inherited the victory and "prosperity" of the founder/conqueror generations–like Roman emp., and now Jew S A.
(b) So the people generally become corrupt, hubristic, and SUBJECTIVISTIC, imagining they are "good," esp. upon the moralistic/Pharisaist pretext, pretending they have God-like "free" will, etc.
(c) So under the corrupt circumstances the criminals are enabled to taking control, Jews being most "ORGANIZED" collectivistic subjectivists, the gentile subjectivists tending to be more individualistic, dis-organized, isolated, etc., the Jews controlling, as we see, running the central-banking scam.
There are more details to be added, as I've done in other expositions, but these are the basic circumstances, the Jews being foremost conspirators and criminals due to their superior organization–as we see presently.
I see no evidence for a spiritual realm
The people / beings behind these conspiracies.
"The gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing". "Reality" is not just the physical realm, it includes the more important spiritual realm! Most people are mired in the physical realm (similar to Plato's cave) and have NO understanding of the spiritual things of God! That, unfortunately, includes you, Steve12!
Who/what's "they"?
"Both sets of extra-dimensional beings can influence your thoughts and subconscious"
And your evidence is what?
Godsend and Apsterian:
Are they Jews, aliens, or both?
Ha ha ha!!!! You won't answer my simple direct questions, but you want me to answer impossibly broad and vague questions like "What is the real world"?
Moron…
There are extra-dimensional beings of Darkness (aka ALIENS, demons and "fallen angels") and there are extra-dimensional beings of Light, more commonly known as angels. Both sets of extra-dimensional beings can influence your thoughts and subconscious – for evil/damage or for good/benefit. God (Christ) Consciousness protects against powers of Darkness and opens the door to the powers of Light. The actions/interventions of these extra-dimensional beings on us are controlled by a set of spiritual laws from which they CANNOT deviate. These laws originate from God (including His permissive will), who represents ultimate good, wisdom and creative power – the great I AM! The ULTIMATE protection from the powers of Darkness (including ALIENS) is Christ-Consciousness! (aka "Christ-in-us").
Shit-for-brains: it's ur obligation to say what's "real world"–don't change the subject on us here, dumbass. Tell us what's "real," and how we know, ho ho oh ho ho–the world is waiting, ho ho oh ho
So you've called me a neuroscientist (there's no hyphen) 14 times. I counted. What's your point?
But stevie, the neuro-scientist: TELL US–what is the "real world"?–tell us, pleeeeeeeeeez, ho ho ho ho oho
GodSend isn't making much sense, but at least he has the intellectual honesty to lay out what he thinks. He's not coward.
Though the escaping reality part is probably true.
Ha ha! So you can't explain, can you? You're an intellectual coward – all of you are. I can tell you exactly what I think! No problem. For some reason you can't .
You guys run and hide because as some level, you KNOW you're full of shit. It's just a way for you to escape the real world.
"They are quite neurotic about controlling and shaping public perception of them, just like any corporation worried about its image because that affects their bottom line."
But corporations have a bottom line ot worry about – what do they have to worry about? They're just like Woody Allen? They just want to be liked? How could you possibly know that?
This is simply shit up as you go so as to never answer for your theories' inconsistencies.
And what about all the shit that they HAVE pulled? Why didn't they get consent for that? Wars have killed millions, ostensibly with 'them' behind them, right?
Why didn't they "worry" about what we would think then?
Total, easily detected, BULLSHIT
U're "ridiculous," that's for sure, ho ho ho ho
U can call whatever u pls, little dumbass "neuro-scientist," ho ho ho ho
Who's kidding who, stevie, the "neuro-scientist." But I agree w. u: SOMEONE lacks for excrement being together, ho ho ho ho. How is it numerous books have been written on the subject, but dumbass like u can't figure it out? Ho ho ho ho Answer: u're not too bright "neuro-scientist," eh? Ho ho ho ho
You can't briefly explain? I call BS.
And the worst part about the consent horseshit is that – once again – your OWN THEORIES self-contradict themselves!
They must obtain consent – BUT THEY CLEARLY DO NOT obtain consent to commit all of the acts that lead to these conspiracy theories IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
Can you people really be this dumb? And this unable to defend their own ideas?
Jesus H Christ this is ridiculous.
From: Montalk (aliens):
Why do negative aliens work through persuasion and deception instead of force?
It’s a softer, subtler form of hostility. They’re trying to keep us from making informed decisions, decisions that would interfere with their attempt to one day win over our hearts and minds through deception. That’s why even now, if you speak out against them, reveal their tactics, ask too many questions on a message board, you can and will gain their attention. They are quite neurotic about controlling and shaping public perception of them, just like any corporation worried about its image because that affects their bottom line. In practice though, aliens can already detect your probable future of causing them harm before you even speak the first word against them. I believe some people are profiled as a threat from infancy, and are abducted throughout life to ensure they never reach their potential.
They are micromanaging the little problem spots on the timeline, to keep them from becoming bigger problems in the future. It could be as simple as you starting to read an important book or website on this issue, and suddenly you’re overcome with an intense desire to fall asleep. Or you wake up the next day and all motivation to look into that subject has been wiped from you, even though you were all enthusiastic before going to sleep. What happened during the night? You don’t have to be taken for hybrid breeding purposes, to get visited and tinkered with.
So aliens use a variety of tactics to shut down spiritual and strategic awakenings in people. They are telepathic. They can read your thoughts, and they can influence your thoughts and feelings to an extent. It’s more a pressure than a total override, though they are capable of the latter as well if they are permitted to exercise that level of control. They can put hypnotic commands into your subconscious while you sleep, that influence you into doing, saying, thinking, or feeling what they require you to. Again, I say influence because it’s not total forced mind control. Most of the time it’s subtle persuasion, but it has a very high success rate because humans are so mindless and don’t question their own impulses.
If we’re aware of it, we can keep ourselves from following through with it. For instance, when coming across an important book on the subject, instead of saying “gee I’m sleepy, I guess I better go to bed” even though it’s two hours before your bedtime, become aware that something unusual is happening, and fight it off. That’s an easy one. Other forms of influencing play on your ego, your insecurities, your emotional weaknesses. Those are harder, because one needs self-examination, willpower, honesty, and humility to not play into ego hooks.
U utterly stupid puke: there are NUMEROUS books written on the subject, but u just ignore reality–continue living in ur little wonder-world, scum, hoo ho o ho ho
So now they have to obtain consent – but no one can explain why. Priceless.
Stevie, The Neurotic "Neuro-Scientist," Ho Ho Ho
It's because (a) u're subjectivist, living within ur own world, rather than the real, objective world of actual reality wherein (b) u're not capable of grasping the actual criminal conspiracy that's taking place. (c) Consequently, it's no wonder ur preconceived problem has no solution.
U're "stunned"?–u were born stunned, and u've been stunned all ur life–u're stunned now. To u, not being stunned would be stunning, ho ho ho ho.
U don't understand basic, simple things, principles–who's fault is that?–whose problem is it? U're just a joke, buddy–keep talking to us, u're sooooo entertaining, seriously, ho ho ho ho ho
"Get it?"
No! You have trouble clearly expressing your ideas, so no.
Why do they need to obtain consent considering the power that they wield?
And if they DO need to obtain consent, why didn't they obtain consent for all of their plots – JFK, 911, etc?
I'm not sure you have your shit together enough mentally to answer simple Qs, but I guess it's worth a shot…
I'm sort of stunned that you geniuses never looked at the bigger picture ramifications of your brainless ideas. The special pleading 'consent' nonsense, the notion that simple arms could knock down this nearly omnipotent bogeyman – dumb, dumb dumb.
Seriously – I don't know how anyone can fall for this shit. It's contradictory on it's face.
Why must they contain consent?
That's a stupid and uneccessary part of your theory that you must invoke because your whole world falls apart without it. Did they obtain consent for 9/11? For staging the shootings? For JFK?
Clearly they DO NOT need to obtain consent.
Debunking you guys is sort of boringly simple….
you can probably get a little further towards 'salvation' after Thanking GOD (th@ has ALLAH the names) th@ gave 'Me' My 'Toy-Box' (now) but instead of you 'shiffties' cutting Me down; why not shoot an e-mail to postmaster@nobel.no with your name in the subject line – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0V98emi1M
Save Ur Strength And Energy–Pick Battles That Can Be Most Usefully Won
I wouldn't sweat it: DON'T FORGET, ZOG still has the central-banking going, churning out oodles and boodles of money, money, money, evermore worthless, but still accepted as payment for goods & svcs–so don't over-work urself trying to compete against reality–ZOG has literal ARMIES of paid "trolls," shills, and agents working for them.
Forces of Christ and truth cannot similarly COUNTERFEIT the money supply, so save ur effort and strength.
Don't forget value of a single truthful exposition is worth infinitely more than multitudes of lies sure to be dumped by ZOG and its "trolls," ho ho ho ho. And if people ultimately can't appreciate the truth, they're going to suffer as they deserve. So stay calm, don't sweat.
It's easier to obtain CONSENT from brain-washed American SHEEPLE! Watch Zionist Slimeball HAG Hillary get "elected" by the American SHEEPLE next November (if we make it that far).
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This book was just Banned by Amazon after they first were selling it "Nobody Died at Sandy Hook," by Jim Fetzer oh and now as a result the author is offering it for free on PDF
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He has more posts seeking to defend this book. Dr. Fetzer and Dr. Tracy also go to this site ASAP and post comments.
Subjectivism: Root Of Fascism, satanism
Well stevie, after all, it's what reality and human existence is all about, war of all against all (according to Thomas Hobbes, anyway), struggle, and conflict–according to Homer, Plato, St. Augustine, Machiavelli, Darwin, et al.
And u place urself w. kikes and kike-lovers, the sons of satan and lies (Gosp. JOHN 8:44), we Christians placed w. TRUTH (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6).
See stevie the Jewwy: truth (= Christ) requires the Aristotelian objective reality as basis/criterion, as I always try to explain to people.
Jews, on the other hand, with whom u relate and identify, imagine and insist reality (specifically, and beginning w. the "Torah") is only what they say it is according to their "Oral Law Tradition"–SUBJECTIVISM. See Talmudical.blogspot.com.
And as we know all science, logic, and reason is necessarily founded in objectivity, we see exactly what sort of idiot "scientist" u really are, right?
So we see what really is the root of ur personality and ur view of reality, thus the basis of ur idiot quandary about Jew world order as it's evermore obvious what's going on, ur Jew buddies now doing their best to starting war w. recent shoot-down of the Russian Jet, the other day, right?
http://montalk.net/
THEY MUST obtain CONSENT! That explains all the elaborate brain-washing and mass mind control which has been going on since the "Protocols". Crisis actors are devoid of genuine human emotion (Sandy Hook "parents", for example) and THEY also lack COMMON SENSE. Humans are more complex than THEY think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acQlrq76IbE
Still can't understand why the Cabal that Rules Over All has alien technology, controls the weather, the media, the financial system, all governments AND all of the world's military…
BUT….
Goes to such great lengths to stage fake shootings because they're worried about gun control laws (which they control anyway, right?)
Anyone who believes that the cabal controls all of this but stages fake shootings is an idiot. Very simple.
First off, I want to accept my douchebag award. There were many people who contributed to my ability to identify obvious BS : my parents, my scientific mentor, Mr. Wigglesnuts, my orange tabby, who has more sense than the lot of you antisemitic PsOS., etc.
I would just hate for anyone to think that I stand here alone.
Oh yeah – Xerkxiezsz1253!2!, my Reptillian mentor was also of great help…
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
The extra-dimensional "powers and principalities of darkness in high places" have created a genetically engineered race of hybrid, humanoid ALIENS (critters of flesh and blood) who are now "running the show" (literally) on planet Earth. 911, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, Virginia Studio, Aurora Theater, Paris Theater and other HOAXES, are ALL staged by these CONTROL FREAK CRITTERS to promote their (ALIEN) AGENDA of human enslavement and ultimate destruction – including destruction of the human habitat (311)! THEY LIVE and look just like us – BUT AIN'T! (Google William Pawelec, Phil Schneider and David M. Jacobs). One of these hybrid ALIENS, now infesting our planet IN LARGE NUMBERS, recently died in Pacific Palisades, CA and his unique "lifestyle", including exercising mind control, only consuming raw meat and amassing weapons, was revealed in a YouTube interview (Lustig). What was not revealed in the interview was that this critter was a REAL hybrid ALIEN!
Connect the bloody blobs! (including FAKE bloody blobs – raspberry jam).
ONLY "Seven Days in May" can save America now!
Oh yeah, and for expo on satanism per se, there's none better than Hoffman's works at Talmudical.blogspot.com, RevisionistReview.blogspot.com, and RevisionistHistory.org. Another great site on Talmud and satanism is Come-and-hear.com
Well stevie, don't forget, for those of us here who know and love u so for the great human and thinker u've so eminently shown urself to be ("neuro-scientist," no less), we see ur above gloating as (a) typical, (b) to-be-expected, (c) and actually the proper and necessary thing, given ur stupid lies, lying, and moronic analysis as u've given heretofore. Keep up ur great work, Mr. "neuro-scientist." Ho ho ho ho ho
Congratulations on being a total douche bag. That's quite an accomplishment for you.
I didn't read above, but HA! Did they censor your book? Awww…no money for you! That's a real shame. How will the world ever get on w/o this epic piece of horseshit?
I don't have anything to say, just wanted to gloat.
Long live the Reptilian Illuminati!
Here's website page for Perloff's book, "Shadows of Power"–sold over 100,000 copies so far: http://jamesperloff.com/the-shadows-of-power/
Ck the Libertarian-Inspired Sites for Great Books and Expository Works
Assuming u're asking me, I highly recommend the Bircher works which u can get at TheNewAmerican.com or JBS.org, these expositing the Jew world order (though they don't call it "Jew," ho ho ho). Birchers also had lots of stuff which they don't feature anymore on their current catalogue.
One of Bircher's greatest works was and still is, James Perloff's "Shadows of Power," a brilliant, short, but still well-illustrated and -referenced exposition for history of the 20th cent.
There are many other great expository works too, like G. Edward Griffin's "The Creature From Jekyll Island." Ck RealityZone.com.
Don't forget Alex Jones InfoWars.com catalogue where u can get good expositions, also at LewRockwell.com and Mises.org.
What are a few books you would recommend to get our minds around these things?
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Another thing I like to emphasize regards meaning and implications of our dear Christianity, formerly the great bulwark of people and culture against such horrific satanism, for if Christianity is love, reverence, and worship of TRUTH (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) above all/any other precepts, then isn't the obvious and necessary logical reciprocal and corollary of that love for truth hatred of lies and satanism (extreme subjectivism) whence truth is destroyed for any objective basis, premise, or criterion, hence meaning?
And I think it's important to remind folks as Christianity is about love of truth, it's legitimate also to be understood reciprocally and logically as hatred of satanism, lies, and hence hatred of foremost organized and dedicated satanists and liars, Jew filth (see Talmudical.blogspot.com for expo on Talmud).
Thus Christianity is most virtuously and accurately understood and simplified as anti-satanism and ANTI-SEMITISM, it being impossible to be Christian without being anti-semitic, as there's no good Jew, satanist, Christ-killer, or psychopath. Christianity is simply most effective such anti-satanism as it so well demonstrates and expounds love of truth (= Christ) and following implications.
So I think it's important, topical, relevant, prudent, instructive, informative, and imperative to pt.-up these simplified themes and ideas for people in general, but also including Fetzer himself for circumstances of philosophy and the cultural situation, both in general, regarding satanism (extreme subjectivism), and then specifically regarding Sandy hoax and the treasonous attempt of satanists to overthrow US Constitution and commit literal genocide ("pop.-reduction" in accord w. "Agenda-21")–it all goes together, don't doubt. Fetzer well-needs to having these ideas made clear for him for his own good and info.
Simple Philosophic Cultural Implications Put In Dramatic, Poignant Manner–Should Be Heeded By Fetzer, Philosophics
"I agree with apsterian, but I don't think it's the best idea to hate a Jew, although fully justified." -Anonymous November 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM, above
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Thanks much for ur kind words, comrade, especially for taking note of my choice of propaganda, text, and style thereto, ho ho ho ho. One of the things I like to do is to getting folks to examine and consider the basic meaning and definitions of the words and concepts they use–and including the circumstances, esp. historic.
For it's important to grasp simple, VERIFIABLE truth that a completely NEW, over only last few yrs and decades or so, thing in way of cultural development has arisen, showing it's putrid face–outright, blatant, in-ur-face satanism (extreme subjectivism)–this is absolutely REVOLUTIONARY, un-seen before in our history of Western (hence Christian) civilization over a couple of millennia now. HOW HAS FETZER FAILED TO TAKE NOTE?–isn't this an amazing and significant question and issue to consider?
Note: first the Jews were legitimized around time of French Rev.–this was bad and horrible enough, but now note the rise of explicit satanism (extreme subjectivism), as in "hip-hop" music, not to mention in other areas too.
Thus this literal, blatant satanism has arisen right under Fetzer's very nose, during the very time Fetzer held his job as "instructor" and "teacher," ho ho ho ho ho ho ho–within the so-called institutes of "higher edjumacation," ho ho ho ho ho–and Fetzer has nary a word to say about all this satanic activity–what are the reasons and circumstances for this GROSS IGNORANCE and incompetence on part of Fetzer?–isn't it actually amazing when u consider the enormity of it all?–and isn't it not only legitimate, but imperative to pt. out this amazing, horrific, and tragic state of affairs?
And the joke is Fetzer goes about telling people about the books he's written, etc.–as if he's someone to actually listen to for his monumental IGNORANCE of such an amazing new cultural development as I've described and noted, easily confirmed and verified by anyone.
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Fetzer Needs Greg Mannarino For His Show
Hey Fetzer: u ought to try to getting Greg Mannarino on ur show. I'm sure Greg would be impressed w. ur audience and market and, like Mike Hoffman, would be eager and happy to appear and thus to possibly gain some audience for his own site and channel.
U should easily see what a great and lively interlocutor Mannarino is–as w. his many interviews w. Greg Hunter, USA Watchdog. And Mannarino knows whereof he speaks.
It's one thing missing and deficient for ur general expo on things, this economic aspect, and especially the central-bank and money issues.
What was that then? Hitler and Lenin at the same video at the same picture, as if they were the same thing. Lenin was made By Federal Resrve and Hitler was strongly against them.
I'm new in here and I found it quite interesting to follow the debate about good Jew-bad Jew. One practical question might be that has anyone ever heard a Jew to say in public, that I'm not a bad Jew, the bad Jew is the high ranked Rabbi who teached me to hate everything except our own racial cult and chain of command inside it, or even worse the man in the FED with money printer, whose artificially made million casualties mess I'm only covering up? Quess it's no but on the other hand it's almost necessity for a so called Christian to take the side of the weaker, in this case the so called weaker. But just almost, the Truth is above everything and it's the light in the darkness that shows whos in need of helping hand and who just want their dirty laundry whitewashed.
I agree with apsterian, but I don't think it's the best idea to hate a Jew, although fully justified. A Jewish individual don't exist, only the Jewish chain of command for outsider gentile, but inside the cult it does exist while individual Jews do the best they can to advance their position at the cult hierarchy.
They have kept monitoring and lying and laughing to us for the past 2000 years, now it's our turn to monitor and lie and laugh to them next 2000 years. Especially those when a Jew is licking another Jews ass for promotion.
(continued) Dr. Fetzer’s colleague and friend, Dr. Kevin Barrett, came on my show and admitted that he knows ET’s are real, but that he believes they are Djinn; demons described in the Koran. He is informed by, and constrained by, his particular “book of truth.”
“Apsterian,” if you read his earlier posts, is a believer in a particular “book of truth.” He also professes great hatred for what he calls “Jews.” I don’t believe he is making the clear distinction between a genetic background of “Jewish” and a culture, or belief in the Talmud, which is unfortunate. Of all the alleged “God’s book of Truth” out there, the Talmud is probably the most horrendous and despicable one can imagine. The Bible and Koran have some terrible, hypocritical parts, yes, but the Talmud leaves them in the dust with depravity, racism and denigration of women. I can fully understand Apsterian’s vituperative and almost violent response, I feel it myself when I think of “Talmudic culture.”
Since we know that ET’s are real, and would likely seem like “Gods” or “demons” to anyone with a particular “God’s true book” world view, it seems as if a deeper analysis or consideration might be in order. Dr. Fetzer’s good friend, Preston James, is another example. A prolific writer about the ET presence, he comes at it from an entire biblical demonic perspective.
Imagine, anonymous, that you were an ET race that might actually be related to us, as if the Earth were a pregnant being and the human race is a child about to be born in to space. Out of the countless millions of ET races, there might be some that are not so nice, but our family might wish to help us, even protect us from the macrocosmic “bad guys.” Perhaps they have a federation, like Star Trek. If that were the case, the fanatic belief that they are Demons of some kind would be quite a hindrance in any future disclosure?
Imagine then, that this giant secret is available to the “elites” that everyone hates so much. What a trump card they have! If anyone gets close enough they can say: “we can only join the Federation if we have a One World Government” (sound familiar?) “and our ET friends are most afraid of getting shot” (understandable). “So we have to take guns away and create a New World Order.”
Jim’s arguments for the second amendment are the best I have ever heard, and progressive as I am, just the fact that these elites want my gun’s so badly is enough for me to tell the ET races, “…too bad. Go land in Australia.”
These disparate elements are in need of transparency and an open reasonable discussion. All the signs point to Disclosure being imminent. How it is managed, who is believed, and how people of different “faiths” and temperament react to the Real Truth is as important a discussion as can be had on this beautiful planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeVOoa90IS4
Anonymous, I agree that a discussion of what “satanism” is or is not, and whether there are “elites” who practice or believe in it, is worth looking at. I don’t believe it can be fully understood without digging deep and discovering the interaction of ET civilizations with the Earth however. At this point, the Disclosure Project, including 6 Apollo astronauts, has clearly proven that ET’s are real, and acknowledged to be real amongst those “elites.” The only question, and it is a valid one, is whether the ordinary, easily frightened people can be told. If you look at David Wilcock’s information and analysis of where “Lucifer” fits in to that model, I think it might provide and interesting perspective.
Apsterian, whom you mention and emulate a bit, is tame in this particular comments section, for which I commend him. In the past his long comments have been filled with vicious and rambling personal attacks, surrounded by “ho ho ho’s” and bible verses. If he continues to write in a calm and less prurient way, as you are doing, I imagine more of us might enjoy actually engaging with him. I will have to wait and see.
Meanwhile, the concept of “satanism” is now able to be looked at more clearly. Many people are completely informed by, and constrained by, their particular religious belief. This is one of the main reasons given by the “elites” for not telling the truth about ET’s and the advanced technologies they have secretly gained from them that could heal and preserve the earth. “Religious people would freak out” (And oil companies could no longer enslave people). (continued)
As apsterian has noted, the deeper SATANIC influences are being untouched by Fetzer and co. He needs to have an expert in SATANISM on his program to explain the CENTRAL SATANIST ZIONIST BANKING SCAM!
Dr, Abbe, what a welcome and well spoken addition you are to our comments and their ensuing debates.
I hope you continue to join us in following and supporting Dr. Fetzer and his compatriots.
I was once a young actor in the "cesspool" of Hollywood (I even did a show at Disneyland, in the Golden Horseshoe Saloon).
I would like you to consider that like our government, just because the mechanisms of the entertainment industry have been taken over by the perverts you mentioned (been there, seen that), doesn't mean that all of us who have chosen music, theater and the arts ought to be lumped in with them.
From the days of the Shaman around a campfire, story telling has played a deep and vital role in the well being of society. The dedicated good guys both in your local theater and in the uncorrupted capillaries of our government deserve and need your love and support.
Calling out the corruption in some of their leaders is a great start, thank you.
After a week of watching this unfold, at last we have a post from Dr. Fetzer. I look forward to taking the time to reply to comments (such as a strangely tame apsterian…), but I would like to put my first two cents in right away.
"They" learned 14 years ago that when they actually kill people in one of these false flags, they sometimes end up with grieving relatives who can't be paid off. (See the documentary "Press For Truth" about the Jersey Girls). With crisis actors they are paid off ahead of time, and are also complicit, which helps keep mouths shut.
Also remember that "The Government" is a structure, like a car. These people, upon violating their oaths, have ceased to be the government and become an occupying power; the “domestic enemies” that many of us have sworn an oath to defend against. It's our structure, the Constitution, meant to protect us from corporations frankly. We need to get them out of the driver's seat.
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On the computer and internet, avoid reading any of that propaganda garbage on Huffington Compost or AOL promoting the Hollywood Perverts. Never read one of the propaganda articles in the NY Post or any other propaganda newspapers or magazines promoting these worthless immoral despicable scum in Hollywood, almost singularly responsible for a nation of degenerates and ignorant fools. These are the evil and dishonest and dishonorable excuses of human garbage, the Good Lord evidently made a mistake producing, and placing them among good honest people, which must be avoided like a Hollywood Leper Colony of Perverts. Avoid them like the plague. You can likely think of many more suggestions. Let them feel your wrath in their pocketbook. Money is their God. This is what they live for. Do your part in denying them the money and power they seek to use to destroy you , your family and your mind and our country and the world. Winfield J. Abbe, Ph.D., Physics
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Here are a few suggestions to reverse this intellectual downfall of the world: First, find the telephone number of your cable and/or satellite provider. Call them immediately and cancel all services. Turn your head away and either install ear plugs or go out of hearing distance if this garbage is on in any building outside your home you enter. Disconnect all wires to all television sets in your home or office or any buildings you control. Either bash them to pieces with a sledge hammer or make sure they are rendered useless, so no other innocent people can be harmed and brainwashed by them, before you drop them into the nearest dumpster. Stop patronizing any and all films, movies or any other propaganda productions garbage by the Hollywood Perverts. Never take your kids or grandchildren to that cesspool Disneyland or any other of the fantasy entertainment garbage dump parks in the world. Cancel all newspaper subscriptions and never read any of those propaganda lies again and teach your children and grandchildren to do the same. Continued:
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And everyone else must be and feel totally free and unencumbered and unintimidated to possess views and opinions which agree or disagree with any and all of such questions or challenges to authority, or none of them, lest we return to the evil, uncivilized and unspeakable human brutalization of the Dark Ages of the embarrassing and shameful and unpleasant history of man. What the totally obscene and criminal efforts of the media seek to accomplish, is push to the side, in a defacto, “intellectual Leper colony”, all those who do not hold the biased, prejudiced, propaganda, false, fake, mythical, fantasy of reality they espouse, using the well known methods of Joseph Goebbels which they learned and blindly adopted from Nazi, Germany. Joseph Goebbels was the Father of modern brainwashing and mind control and anti intellectual gang rape of the human mind on the vast scale which we see in our totally corrupt media owned and controlled mostly by the Hollywood Perverts in America today. All this is what true Academic Freedom should be about but has largely vanished from most so called “institutions of higher learning” via the insidious efforts above of intellectual gang rape of the academy. If this trend is not reversed and soon, there is little hope for so called civilization and so called “civilized” society. Continued
If someone wants to question whether Obama is indeed a “Natural Born Citizen” as required, but ignored as a requirement, by our Constitution as a condition to serve as a United States President, he or she must feel free and unencumbered and unintimidated to do so. If someone wants to address the question of whether the Turks committed greater crimes against humanity against the Armenians long before the crimes of Hitler in Nazi, Germany, he or she must feel free and unencumbered and unintimidated to do so. If someone wants to seek to prove that the Holocaust was by no means the first instance of man’s inhumanity to man throughout history, one must feel unencumbered and unintimidated to do so. If one wants to question the official lies of the alleged Sandy Hook Massacre in Newtown Connecticut on December 14, 2012, as this book by the very courageous and intelligent authors Professor Fetzer, Mr. Mike Palecek, professor James Tracy, et al does, with evidence and facts, they must feel unencumbered and unintimidated and free to do so. The list of examples is obviously endless and infinite. Continued:
All new scientific and technological discoveries can be used for good or for evil. The discovery of the printing press has been used for evil when lies are published, or good when truth is published. The same is true of the internet. But the answer is not to censor information in advance; the answer is to seek to educate an intelligent, questioning, critical population with the mental tools to decipher the difference between truth and fiction or good and evil or propaganda from journalism or science based on evidence, facts and the rules of the scientific method to pseudo science based on unverifiable mythology or astrology or other untestable claims which violate the Scientific Method and laws of physics. The goal should be the quest for knowledge, truth and understanding no matter “whose ox is gored” in the process. Anything, any issue, any question, any accepted dogma…is subject to question and examination however offensive it may be to the lying, cheating, politically correct powers that be of the day. If someone wants to question whether the Sun “rises” in the East and “sets” in the West, he or she must feel free and unencumbered and unintimidated to do so. If someone wants to question the official claims of the Holocaust, which was neither the beginning nor the end of man’s inhumanity to man, he or she must feel free and unencumbered and unintimidated to do so. Continued:
THE INTELLECTUAL GANG RAPE OF THE WORLD BY THE HOLLYWOOD PERVERTS
By Winfield J Abbe, Ph.D., Physics
What we observe happening in America, and has already happened in our neighbor to the North, Canada, is what I would call a massive form of “intellectual rape”, where intelligent people are shamed by an insidious form of politically correct thought police, promoted by the Hollywood Perverts who own and control most of the brainwashing machinery in the country, to be intimidated from even associating with anyone deemed by these intellectual rapists, who holds views contrary to the official “lie of the day”. In other words, what they seek to do, is isolate anyone who, for whatever reasons, valid or not, scientific or not, based on reason and evidence and facts, or not, …does not agree with the official unsubstanted non scientific brainwashing of the population at large by the barrage of media hype while lying overtly by commission and covertly by omission and fraudulently by deception via every venue; print, electronic, television, radio, satellite, books pamphlets, you name it. The only exception is the internet which they do not yet control but are vigorously engaged in seeking control of. The only possible salvation of truth is the invention of the world wide internet. If that fight is lost, we may as well become resigned to returning to the dark ages of ignorance and lies and deception of 2000 years ago.
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Don't Fail To Note satanism Behind All The Confusion, Chaos
Yes, Mcdave, but don't forget what controls the MSM (mass-corp. Jews-media): it's the central-banking legalized COUNTERFEITING behind it all, which provided for the funding, paying-off of the various "players," including the local officials, corrupt cops, and everyone else.
And this funny-money machine, and powers behind it, are still active, even if the Petro-dollar system itself is on its last legs, US Dollar about to collapse, presently looking to start a war in Syria and Ukraine–this is the latest tragedy, all of them related, including JFK assassination and the 9/11 hit too.
The entire system of fraud, intimidation, and terror can well be symbolized by SATANISM by which the moralizing HUBRIS of individuals is stoked to going along w. supposed charismatic leaders and movements, like especially the "climate-change" fraud and world gov. dictatorship which is the phony solution posed to the "problem" these frauds have deliberately concocted and created–like ISIS which created the waves of foreign refugee invaders
And CUI BONO?–look who always benefits–Jews and their subjectivistic, satanic collaborators, including now those most active in the continued frauds, esp. "climate-change," like the homosexuals, even lately, the "trans-gendered," always seeming to keeping things confused and chaotic, but the Jews and satanists (subjectivists) pushing the absolute state. always advancing.
Mcdave
I have known for many yrs Sandy Hook was a scam,, this one scandal alone is enough to bring down the Obama administration if the truth became public…Always remember our MSM is contributing to the destruction of our country with their lies and cover ups
2:02 a.m., Thursday Nov. 26 | Other comments by Mcdave
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This 426 page book, fully documented with evidence, facts and color photographs, is now available free on the internet after Amazon suddenly and without notice or explanation or justification, removed it from their shelves, evidently from high level government pressure. This insidious conduct, both the fraudulent event itself and its suppression, by our outlaw government, is what should be discussed and rejected by all concerned citizens. Donation websites were even set up before this event happened, which have raised about $27 million or about $1 million per family. None of these “deaths” are even listed in the government death index. The Hollywood Perverts fake death and grief all the time. It is a cake walk for them. You can read the detailed proof in this book for free or continue to keep you head in the sand and be fooled by our lying government. It is your choice.”
Here is the response of McDave to the above comment by wjabbe:
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Here is my first comment by wjabbe:
“Millions of Americans own millions or possibly billions of guns of all sorts for self defense and other legitimate purposes guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution. Are all these millions of good Americans running around shooting innocent people or committing crimes with these many weapons? No they are not because if they were, the country would be in chaos.
What Americans should be incensed about, however, is the conspiracy of government at three levels, federal, State of Connecticut, and Newtown, Connecticut, to run a scam at Sandy Hook School, which was closed in 2008 due to asbestos and other toxic contamination, faking the deaths of 27 to promote the gun control agenda. A recent book “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook” proves conclusively, that this event was a total hoax event on December 14, 2012 designed as a ruse using the age old sympathy scam to fool Americans into giving up their basic rights to own and possess various types of guns. Continued below:
Last Wednesday, Nov. 25, 2015, I posted a comment about the book “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook” at WorldNetDaily a site operated by an intelligent journalist Joseph Farah. Here is the link to the article: Mr. Farah has taken plenty of ridicule and heat himself over the years for his aggressive exposure of Obama’s fake birth certificate, fake SS number, interestingly also from corrupt Connecticut and the many carefully guarded secrets of the origins and history of Obama and more. I am still hopeful that after Mr. Farah has an opportunity to read this book, he will include it in his book recommendations on WND.com
Posted to this article: http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/americans-urged-to-talk-gun-control-at-thanksgiving-table/?cat_orig=diversions
“Americans Urged to Talk Gun Control at Thanksgiving Table” by Cheryl Chumley
The first comment I posted was not approved. I then posted a revised comment which was posted which follows below: This comment was then followed by a single positive response by Mcdave below, followed by my response to him. I found it surprising that there were no further comments. I expected a barrage of negative ones. Yet the only comment to my original post was a supportive and intelligent one by McDave.
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Book Suppression, Banning Just Minor Manifestation Of Latest satanic Trends Now Aiming At War
Well Fetzer, once again we see the TREMENDOUS and overwhelming power of the financial might of central-banking (US Federal Reserve Bank–see Mises.org and RealityZone.com for expo) in the way it can control things cultural and sociologic, as for the mass-corp. Jews-media, ownership and control of the large corp.s, politicians, judges, public edjumacation, etc.–practically everything and everybody.
U need to do a show on the power and implications of this central-banking scam, how it works, some of the history, etc., this entire scam built upon people's simple ignorance regarding money, what it is and must be, and why.
But it looks like ZOG has gone yet a step further in the satanic process of hubris and death-worship (as Agenda-21 and "population-reduction") w. Turkey's shoot-down of the Russian jet, the other day. Greg Mannarino, noted stock-market analyst, now explains how ZOG most seriously wants war–as way of ginning-up yet more funds and gov. spending to prop their "devivatives" investments. See his 12 min vid at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5rjAmwgtwk
The only other pt. to be made is the distinct SATANIC nature of the general culture, as in "hip-hop" music, which has arisen before our very eyes. Remember satanism is hubristic making oneself God, specifically then by means of extreme subjectivism, all-time pretext for this subjectivism given by moralism of non-existent "good-evil."
Who controls this satanism/subjectivism?–the most COLLECTIVISTIC, "organized," and "connected" among subjectivists, gentiles typically being too individualistic and isolated, even though these stupid goyim so much presently out-number Jews.
So would ZOG have deliberately staged Sandy hoax?–why wouldn't they as we see they deliberately built-up ISIS to create masses of refugees by which to invade formerly sovereign states to bring in world dictatorship, the "rightist"-seeming and neo-con Jews behind Israel working hand-in-hand w. the leftist Jews behind Obola and the United Nations?–just like they did on 9/11.