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The current estimate for the fatality rates on the coronavirus just don’t add up. The estimates based on current data are completely inaccurate. Current data shows that this virus is much less deadly that even the common flu from the 2019-2020 season.
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Summary of points below:
- Estimates have been made about the fatality rate of the coronavirus
- Sometimes estimates are reasonable and sometimes they are off, way off
- The current global coronavirus fatality rate is estimated at 3.4%
- The same rate for the flu is 10% (but the media tells you it’s .1%)
- Actual results for the coronavirus are lower than the flu
- Current estimates between the flu and the coronavirus are not comparing ‘apples to apples’
- Those most at risk from the coronavirus are the elderly (average age of death is 80) and the sick
1. Estimates have been made about the fatality rate of the coronavirus.
Often times estimates have to be made because data is just not yet available. These estimates usually involve obtaining information that is available and making estimates on what is not. We cannot tell the future but we can make educated guesses based on information available. This is what has been done with the coronavirus because this type of virus has apparently never been seen before.
2. Sometimes estimates are reasonable and sometimes they are wrong, way off.
I personally know of estimates made by actuaries (i.e. statisticians) who projected profits in a country that were way wrong. In this case the government changed the regulations related to the business in the country which resulted in tens of millions in losses in USD. I know of another case where actuaries predicted a deal to be profitable that eventually led to over $100 million in losses.
The point is that whenever estimates are made they are always wrong because no one can tell the future. Sometimes estimates end up close and sometimes they are not and sometimes they are way off.
3. The current estimate for the coronavirus fatality rate is about 3.4%.
The estimates for the fatality rate for the coronavirus are shocking. The CDC released one report in February stating the rate varies between 12% and 1%:
Our estimates of the risk for death in Wuhan reached values as high as 12% in the epicenter of the epidemic and ≈1% in other, more mildly affected areas.
A report by the World Health Organization (WHO) and China estimates the mortality rate to be around 3.8% based on actual results:
As of 20 February, 2114 of the 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases have died (crude fatality ratio [CFR2] 3.8%) (note: at least some of whom were identified using a case definition that included pulmonary disease). The overall CFR varies by location and intensity of transmission (i.e. 5.8% in Wuhan vs. 0.7% in other areas in China).
Other reports are that the WHO estimates the mortality rate to be around 3.4%:
The World Health Organization (WHO) has estimated the mortality rate from Covid-19 is about 3.4%. That is higher than seasonal flu and is cause for concern – but even if it is correct, more than 96% of people who become infected with the coronavirus will recover.
As of today, the actual fatality rate for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus is 3.84%. This is the number of fatalities from the virus divided by the number of individuals who were confirmed with the virus.
4. The same rate for the flu is 10% (but the media tells you it’s .1%).
As The Gateway Pundit reported earlier, according to CDC numbers, in the US in the 2019-2020 flu season, there were 222,000 confirmed cases of the flu from testing and an estimated 36 million flu cases in the United States. There were 22,000 confirmed deaths from the flu.
Note that the number of deaths and confirmed cases (through testing) of the flu in the US are based on actual data. The number of individuals who contracted the flu is an estimate by experts. There is no way to know who had the flu in the US because many cases are not severe and people do not have a test done to confirm they had the flu. They believe their symptoms are minor and go on with their normal lives thinking they have a cold or something similar. Because of this, the CDC must estimate and they estimated 36 million people had the flu in this past flu season.
The rate of the number of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who had the flu is therefore .1% (22,000 / 36 million). This is an estimate.
However, the rate of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who were confirmed to have had the flu is around 10% (22,000/ 222,000). This is based on actual data similar to the rate for the coronavirus above.
5. Actual results for the coronavirus are lower than the flu.
Based on the above numbers, the actual fatality rates for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus are around 3.4%.
The actual rates for those who were confirmed to have had the flu are around 10%.
The actual rates for those who were confirmed to have had the flu are around 10%.
The actual data shows that the fatality rate for those who had the flu (10%) is 6% higher than for those with the coronavirus (3.8%).
6. Current estimates between the flu and the coronavirus are not comparing ‘apples to apples’.
The fatality rate that is commonly referred to in the media for the coronavirus is 3.4% from the WHO. This number is based on actual cases of those who are confirmed with the virus.
The flu fatality rate provided by the CDC includes an estimate of individuals who had the flu but were not confirmed while the fatality rate for the coronavirus does not include those who had the coronavirus but were not confirmed. This is why the flu fatality rate is .1% and the coronavirus fatality rate is 3.4%!
The two rates are like comparing apples to oranges. By doing so the coronavirus fatality rate is way overstated when compared to the flu and the media has created a worldwide crisis and panic by reporting this!
The coronavirus is not more fatal than the flu based on current data. It is much less fatal than the flu based on current data.
7. Those most at risk from the coronavirus are the elderly and sick (similar to the flu).
Similar to the flu, those most at risk of dying from the coronavirus are the elderly and the sick. The average age for those who died from the coronavirus in Italy is 81 years old. This is consistent around the world. There have been no known fatalities for any children 10 and under.
The sick are also at a higher risk similar to the flu. Current data shows that if you have no pre-existing conditions, your fatality rate if you contract the coronavirus is .9% (and what proportion of these cases are the elderly).
In summary, the coronavirus is not as deadly as is being portrayed in the lying liberal media. In fact it is not as deadly as the flu. The elderly and the sick should be protected. Everyone else has very little to worry about. Again, don’t believe what the media is telling you. They are lying again.
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Superb article from ZH…..Excerpt:
No, I’m not an epidemiologist, but I have a close friend who knows a guy who dated a woman who dated a doctor who personally knows another doctor who works in a hospital in Italy somewhere, and she (i.e., my friend, not the doctor in Italy) posted something on Facebook yesterday that was way too long to read completely but was a gut-wrenching account of how Covid-19 is killing Kuwaiti babies in their incubators!
https://www.zerohedge.com/?page=1
I know someone who like knows someone who like knows someone who like saw a squirrel cross the freeway in rush hour and like um the squirrel got like um ran over by a car and like um so we should ban all cars.
I’m sorry but that paragraph had to be about the biggest pile of dog doo-doo I’ve ever read.
If Covid-19 could possibly kill babies in Kuwait, you have to ask yourself why are no infants dying in incubators anywhere else in the world?
But if babies could die in on small country in the world, it would be like most of the other victims who have died. They have little or no immune system because they haven’t been in the world yet. However, in this advanced day of science… How many babies are in incubators? My son was in a NEO-NATAL intensive care unit for his first month and there were no incubators anywhere. Kuwait is probably the richest nation on the planet and they have all kinds of modern medical and science wonders that we don’t even have in America so why would they be using incubators? At the hospital, my son was in (which just so happens to have one of the most respected and awarded NICU’s in America doesn’t even have incubators for their babies which are in such bad condition they keep them in quarantine. So why is there some BS article about newborn babies dying in incubators in Kuwait? Good question. The other question is they always have strict standards of who can go into NICUs all over the world so how did these newborns catch Covid-19 in the first place? I’m smelling some real bad doodie in this doodie tale!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone else smelling Doodie? sniff sniff sniff yup – doodie
I am afraid you missed the sarcasm.
That’s why I put in the link to the article.
Get real
http://www.whale.to/b/kuwait_babies.html
You are the second person who failed to read the article and cannot recognize satire when it’s presented.
So I live in Washington State where the first supposed “victim” of Corona Virus in the USA.
On March 13th, the idiot Governor Locke closed down schools and any assemblage of more than 200 people.
Then several other states started taking the queue.
As of March 13th when I found out my kids’ education was going to be screwed with by the Governor, the cooked numbers were already higher than they should have been. In less than a week, the numbers went from 1 to 16, some at my daughter’s elementary school was saying it was 22 and getting worse. Now 6 days later they have people from 22-40 saying they were tested with it but they were totally fine in less than a week with bed rest and fluids.
The only people who have died in Washington so far have been over 60 and living in the same Nursing home in Kirkland, WA.
All the CVID 19 “victims” in Washington were suffering from a severe disease with serious bad immune systems. You have to wonder how these patients kept getting sick and why there was on lockdown. (You almost wonder if they weren’t injected with the virus to start
the panic.) My wife and I laugh every time the Portland, OR news comes on and says the “pandemic” has come to Oregon and the death “toll” in Oregon is now 3. Death toll =3 toll?
so I followed the press and the internet and liberals were going off the deep end after Locke closed down the schools the death toll went from 16 on Friday to 47 on Saturday then 63 yesterday. There is 0 evidence of such numbers. Other than 1 strange article yesterday that said there was 63-70 dead in Washington. They are still all over the age of 65 and even in my county in SW Washington, there is another n
nursing home where 6 have died now. Again they were all over the age of 65 and in a nursing home and suffering from illnesses that attack the immune system. However, how are even 70 people out of a population of over 2 million statewide a pandemic?
People are rolling over like a bunch of lemmings stating they are so glad the government is protecting us. I’ve always believed Americans to be reasonably intelligent until the last 6 days.
3 people dead in Oregon with something like 16 total cases and the Oregon Governor controlled the take over of the State Fairgrounds in Salem to put in hundreds of hospital beds and say they expect that they will be filled by the end of Summer 2020. Pandemic in Oregon and death toll of 3. The death toll of 3. If this wasn’t so aggravating I would be laughing my arse off. And some people wonder why we’ve been saying we miss America and God please still bless the New Amerikka.
in 2009 I had H1N1 and was hospitalized in intensive care for quite some time and my lungs were paralyzed on the right side and it took me over a year to get 100%. I almost died and many did…Doctors and nurses were on a vastly short supply because so many were sick with H1N1 in SW Washington and were hospitalized themselves. No schools were closed. No government and media-induced hysteria. Anyone tries to tell me this isn’t the beginning of a mild but increasingly aggressive global government takeover I’ll laugh in their face.
David Icke delivers the absolute best analysis of corona virus and the Jew World Order I have ever heard. Worth the 2 hours.
https://londonreal.tv/the-truth-behind-the-coronavirus-pandemic-covid-19-lockdown-the-economic-crash-david-icke/
This robust explanation might be good to send to people who might not get it.
I am sorry to say, those in fear and panic are unlikely to listen to logic and common sense. Most are in a self-protection mode….fight or flight….the brain shuts off and the primal need for survival takes over.
That said, it is a superb video (still listening).
Icke actually goes into that explanation at around 49 minutes.
I’m a long-time conspiracy theorist and investigator. This David Icke is wildly off the charts compared to me and even an expert like Jim Fetzer. David sees a conspiracy in almost everything.
Putting Icke’s reptillian scenarios aside that are not mentioned in that vid, is there something specific with which you disagree?
That’s because they ARE everywhere Don.
Here’s an interesting comment from an article on ZH. Several sources have posted similar information, so it may have validity.
..BUT, my question would be, why is this drug not used on the regular flu?
My sense is that this is all part of the plan and the psyop.
You be the judge…
Here is info on the drug:
COVID 19 Treatment Research Collage USA researchers did a double blind placebo test with Hydroxychloroquine a 70 year old antimalarial generic drug that has been used by millions. The results of 30 people with COVID 19 is of 15 on placebo 0% were cured, of 15 on Hydroxychloroquine 100% were cured and no longer would infect others. It costs .70 pill in USA, .04 a pill overseas and the recommended treatment is 1 pill for 7-10 days so entire treatment is $0.40. This is wonderful news for poor countries. It is an extremely common drug produced in high quantities. It does have side effects but they are much more likely after years of use, for 7-10 days drug interactions would be the main concern. My sister used it several times for travel to tropical areas and recalls no side effects. About March 15th a member of the study team that worked with Stanford for the study went on TV about it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAV7QkABExw&feature=emb_logo+ Here is a paper they did March 13th for medical people and techies https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-7deJ7/pub before the results were in, to explain it. This is what is being used in Korea which has a death rate 1/10th of Italy which does not appears to use it as the std treatment. As the study above notes it has a vaccine like Prophylactic effect too. They sum up why they think it works here: To summarize, because chloroquine has a multitude of extra nitrogens, once it crosses the membrane and enters an organelle, the organelle is prevented from reaching a lower pH. The organelle’s enzymes cannot work because the donor group will be a hydrogen ion, disabling the hydrolysis required for coronavirus replication. This means that all kinds of events in the cell are incapable of performing optimally, including viral replication. Here are the Korean Guidelines: Treatment Guidelines from South Korea[7] According to the Korea Biomedical Review, the South Korean COVID-19 Central Clinical Task Force guidelines are as follows: 1. If patients are young, healthy, and have mild symptoms without underlying conditions, doctors can observe them without antiviral treatment; 2. If more than 10 days have passed since the onset of the illness and the symptoms are mild, physicians do not have to start an antiviral medication; 3. However, if patients are old or have underlying conditions with serious symptoms, physicians should consider an antiviral treatment. If they decide to use the antiviral therapy, they should start the administration as soon as possible: … chloroquine 500mg orally per day. 4. As chloroquine is not available in Korea, doctors could consider hydroxychloroquine 400mg orally per day (Hydroxychloroquine is an analog of chloroquine used against malaria, autoimmune disorders, etc. It is widely available as well). 5. The treatment is suitable for 7-10 days, which can be shortened or extended depending on clinical progress. Notably, the guidelines mention other antivirals as further lines of defense, including anti-HIV drugs. Note the person on TV interview in first link says hydroxychloroquine is safer to use than chloroquine, but both will work. In terms of how it works another doctor with a COVID patient in USA that wanted to figure out why Korea has a 10 times better treatment success rate than Italy. He also came to hydroxychloroquine but thinks it works for another reason, that it opens the cell wall to allow much more Zinc into the cell which kills the COVID. Here is a video of him explaining it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U+ It is extremely techie for someone without a medical or biologic background. So this is being used in Korea and now is being used in China too, both are having success with it. The French government tasked a famed scientist to come up with a cure for COVID. He did another test like USA one on 28 french patients with COVID. The results were 0% success with placebo, 75% success with chloroquine, apparently not hydroxychloroquine. Here is that https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/3/18/21183917/coronavirus-covid19-france-drug-trial-professor For some bizarre reason it appears that WHO is trying to fight this?? Even though it is the most successful treatment used so far. It appears to have saved hundreds if not thousands of lives in Korea. Yesterday Israel reported they are making it an approved treatment https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Health-Ministry-approves-experimental-treatments-for-coronavirus-621209 They also approved Remdesivir which is much more expensive, I think still under patent by Gilead. UK Daily mail reported yesterday Australian researchers claim two existing drugs could ‘cure’ COVID-19 after patients they tested responded ‘very well’ to treatment. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115879/COVID-19-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html And again it involves Chloroquine and in this study Lopinavir/ritonavir, the anti-HIV drug. Elon Musk of Tesla is now backing it https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-malaria-drugs-could-treat-coronavirus-2020-3 I am guessing he is looking at same info. Today NBC is reporting about it https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-are-some-existing-drugs-may-be-repurposed-treat-coronavirus-n1162021 “Based on encouraging preliminary findings from a study in France”, Sanofi is looking at ways to collaborate and partner with health authorities investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine for the management of coronavirus. In summation in my opinion the very best results seem to be with hydroxychloroquine. In a double blind placebo test in USA it was 100% effective in 6 days, and is one of the least expensive drugs in the world used by millions over decades. It does require a prescription in USA and doctors can prescribe it and are. The rules on that are here: https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/understanding-unapproved-use-approved-drugs-label
I just watched another bit from the Simpson’s cruise ship episode from 2012. Bart hacks the ship’s video intercom system and spoofs everyone with a clip from a virus outbreak movie. A General tells the cruisers they must remain at sea to save humanity.
Bart is thrilled that everyone buys it without question. The narrater of this video makes some astute observations. As Bart sabatoges the ship to shore radio, he opens the radio cover and the circuit just happens to be in the shape of 33.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZs85n0HP0A&fbclid=IwAR3aApp-YKDTXnpRDnJOlSW-2q6DD7qv1N3ZKM6WOyTNLqHOHRPJs8wDpC0
Even more fascinating is remember the senior couple stranded aboard a cruise ship? They just happend to be celebratig 33 years of marriage and the temperature on the TV screen read 33 degrees. This crowd is not into coincedences. The cruiser’s name was David Abel which translates to 33 on the numerology calculator. Then they found David’s picture at a Masonic Lodge with two other high up muckity-mucks.
What do the evil fuckers running our show have in mind next? How about some more “natural” disasters like tornados and earthquakes? I just wrote that a few days ago and Salt Lake City gets hit with a 5.7 earthquake. Maroni’s horn drops from a statue. Huge symbology.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-patient-on-hellish-ordeal-i-was-screaming-for-mercy-and-praying-to-god/
The man in New Jersey details what happened to him with his case of Covid-19. This is a warning to all who believe this new virus pandemic is a minor event…its not. Even if you’ve had common flu, you’re most likely not immune from this new virus.
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This (in The New York Post, of all places, especially) looks like propaganda to promote hysteria. The fatality rate of coronavirus is about 3.4%, from the flue, about 10%. So it looks as though coronavirus is about 6% less lethal than the flu. You are commenting on the article that reports this. I am at a loss. The Post is tabloid trash. The story is (just a bit) ridiculous. Why are you falling for it?
I am not falling for this, Jim. I only show it so that people will know what its like to get Covid 19 virus. Its not like the common flu, [ that I’ve already had several times in my life.] This is a NEW type of illness and it can kill within days. Do you think the man is a liar?
Twenty year old soccer athlete in Spain thought he had a bad cold. He finally went to Dr after a week….was admitted to hospital and was dead in 3 days.
Don…Have you met anyone who has ‘suffered” from this thing…or are you depending upon these stories that could very well be part of the propaganda machine pushing this crap?
I have never been to Tokyo, London or Moscow but I have seen photos of those places. I have knowledge and reliable information that they actually exist.
Does someone who counsels drug addicts, need to be a drug addict?
Obviously not, but a counselor with that experience would have direct knowledge upon which to draw in the process.
We have all seen crisis actors assisting in pulling off false flags and noted that many, if not most citizens accept their “witness”.
I would be more inclined to believe someone had this ‘virus’ if I knew and spoke to them personally or if they were some family member than I would some account through an article or TV interview.
So you need to talk PERSONALLY with the victims of Covid19 before you would believe anything in a video or a written article? You’ve got your work cut out for you……good luck.
As for me, I have a life and don’t need to go after various sick people to get their story first hand. I guess I don’t measure up to your high standards.
I have read a LOT on Sandy Hook, including articles by Jim Fetzer and others and I believe them. I guess you do not.
You end by telling us that Covid-19 is a lot of ”crap”. Really?
A 21 Spanish soccer coach died, but he was found to have leukemia when he went to get checked for his corona symptoms.
The people underestimating need to realize we are in the early stages of this in the US. there are already 3,000 deaths in Italy from the virus
He did not know he had leukemia. There are many types of leukemia…from mild slow-growing to an aggressive fatal manifestation.
Don…Since NO VIRUS has ever been isolated and the only way to test is for the antibodies your body produces, how can they say for sure this was not the virus that so many get this time of year….especially with all this coming from a main stream rag. This is an amazing vid I posted in an earlier comment:
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=HXN5X4X2RN4X
Will….yes, Covid-19 has been isolated, there are electron micro photos of it all over the Internet. How have you missed these pictures?
The nose swab test for Covid19 is another issue. What you say may be correct, I don’t know.
Its sad that so many people don’t want to talk about what happens to someone who is infected with Covid19. It must be fear because they start to sound shrill and that often leads to swearing.
There were pictures of the moon landing, too….did you believe those? Remember that NASA fellow who said…..they, they have to be composites (paraphrased)
Once again, if you watch that vid, you will understand NO VIRUS has ever been isolated. All those photos you see…especially the colored ones …are fake. They’re artistic renditions. Electron microscopes only show black and white pictures.
Don…Just go to about 26 minutes on that vid.
I was queued up for toilet paper, one pack of 12 9and three boxes of tissues) per person at Aldi at 7:30am the other day. Then they changed the opening time from 8:30 to 9:30am. Luckily I got a roll. But today there was no rolls, I got two boxes of tissues.
There was a lady in the shop, she said she no longer watches the news and was suffering from anxiety, especially from this virus stuff. I told her the media and the government were trying to scare the “:Shit” out of her, she said they had. I said only five (now six) people had died from it, how many people died from other things like the flu, that this is ridiculous.
Hilarious!
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I have a Hilux, lucky I didn’t get a Corona?
I know the people who run the world are crooks, so unlike most people I would not be shocked to find out this was a psycholigical operation . I consider this like the towers. They fell, but the pictures were doctored, there were no planes as portrayed. I hope I am right. Anyhow I spend much time and fuel trying to buy toilet paper. Our medical officer for Victoria said everyone shoukd have two weeks supplies of food etc, people were already hoarding, he just made it worse. The the Prime Minister said , it is “un Australian to hoard. As of tomorrow no foreigners allowed into Australia. Last Friday the Prime Minister announced they cancelled the Grand Prix, and no corwds at footy games etc from Monday. Then he and the opposition leader said they were to going to the footy on the weekend to beat the ban. Like it was a lien who brought on the ban.The penny must have dropped because they both said they were not going to the football.
On a lighter note why are “illegal aliens” people, and “aliens” Martians? I would have thought Martians are not citizens.
Anyhow Bill Cooper said they were the CIA dressed up as aliens, so they were probably “legal”.
Stone with some interesting points:
Just wait and watch it happen.
Do not overlook the fact that this “virus” gave the New World Order every last stinking thing they wanted, in ONE WHACK.
They wanted to keep people huddled in their homes waiting for government prescribed “survival” JUST LIKE COMMUNIST RUSSIA
They wanted the cars OFF the road, and this virus is accomplishing that in spades. Lots of cities around the world have virtually all cars parked.
They were sick of air travel and did not want the peons vacationing so much, and an enormous pile of planes are now grounded.
They wanted restricted, registered travel, JUST LIKE SOVIET RUSSIA – even local travel, through the county or state without crossing even state lines, and in many parts of the world, they suddenly have that.
They wanted a restricted permit based existence, and they are set to get it via this virus.
They wanted to trash the Trump economy, and did it with perfection, all in the name of this virus. If they have their way, they’ll get their famines too, in the not too distant future. Whether or not they actually get to take it that far all depends upon whether or not people can be bullshitted into simply sitting down and dying, or even better – VOTING FROM HOME. If they actually get that, it’s adios to EVERYTHING.
Interesting it is that this virus popped up out of nowhere the day impeachment failed, right when there was a massive global awakening. Now they get to shut it all down, over a virus that is proven to be man made. How PERFECT could that be? Gee, it could not have been planned better. Coincidence can really be favorable don’t ya know!
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18314818.coronavirus-not-bioweapon-created-lab-scientists-say/
According to this report the Covid-19 is not man made. It came about through natural processes that have been around a long time…millions of years.
Pandemics are not new to this planet. There have been many and there will be many more….maybe even worse ones.
Did Trump just blow 2020?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-invokes-defense-production-act-coronavirus-response-deploys-fema-all-regions
Fairy tale. At least they lightened up on the fake shootings.
Alex Jones gives a good explanation…….
https://www.infowars.com/watch/?video=5e72b43f22cfb600a581201d
When there is an event of this nature……..hyped by the MSM to insure panic and fear…..most citizens will not look at the facts contrary to what is being pushed by TV and radio. The same thing happened on 911. It’s a tried and true method the herd mentality falls for every damn time. Our masters understand mob behavior far more then us…..and they use it against us constantly with the MSM as their main tool.
Think for yourself. Use common sense and your own intuition to ride it all out.