Carl Herman, Where America stands for 2020 Independence 2.0

Carl Herman

[Editor’s note: Carl Herman, who is a nationally recognized teacher of history, economics and mathematics (including statistics), was my guest on “The Fetz Presents” (7 July 2020) for an in-depth, two-hour interview about the state of the national and his expectations for the future.

This presentation’s three talking points (full documentation at the links of the featured articles during the presentation, with usual documented context at the end of the article):

1. Scholars have already proven the existence and criminality of a US Deep State, that requires no further proof. That said, we’re in an accelerating disclosure of “official” lies and crimes with potential breakthrough of public recognition: Russia-gate, crime-less “impeachment,” Obama-gate, “Plandemic,”  and now Maxwell’s arrest are all impressive political theater foreshadowing Patriot victory. Concurrently, we have accelerating Deep State attacks of economic lockdowns, election fraud by mail-in “voting,” armed rioters, etc. The American public are being polarized into ever-clearer choice: psychopathy or patriotism.

2. Q is a White House insider proven by coordination of Q posts’ timing and language with Trump Tweets. Q seems true with promise of disclosures starting as drips then swelling to a flood. Q also said Americans must be shown .01% evil. Our status includes video and lip-reading evidence that JFK Jr. and wife Caroline both alive and literally “on stage” behind Trump. “Enjoy the show” Q says; and a show is all it is until corporate media becomes news rather than propaganda.

3. Sheeple will only be moved by .01% arrests with accurate news reporting. Until then, Patriots are at risk of Civil War. Q could be a PsyOp for “impressive political theater truth” just until enough Patriots rise, then stage a false-flag assassination of Trump and/or Obama for Civil War 2.0 to end the USA. This would be next-level PsyOp, and I personally see our “masters” as too lazy for this much work/risk. Therefore, “trust the plan” = trust Life/God/Programmer to evolve as we act in good-faith effort for American Revolution 2.0 victory. Humans have control only over our thoughts, words, and actions: choose them wisely.

The Fetz Presents (7 July 2020) with Carl Herman. To watch, click here.

This presentation follows our April discussion.

Professor Emeritus Jim Fetzer is among the leading scholars to explain, document, and prove ongoing false flag attacks, including President Kennedy’s assassination (2018 video presentation), 9/11 (video presentation), and editing 12 books from leading Ph.D experts (more with JFK and 9/11). His work includes a blognational podcasts, and national conferences (and here).

Jim Fetzer is among the first ten Distinguished McKnight University Professors of the University of Minnesota, with 100+ published articles/reviews and 20+ books on philosophy of science, theoretical foundations of computer science, artificial intelligence, and cognitive science.

Why the ‘Big Lie’? Big Picture: US ongoing illegal rogue state empire

You live under an evil government with central policies in war, money, and lying that annually kill millions, harm billions, and loot trillions, as the following documents. Consider a brief listing, just as Thomas Jefferson detailed crimes of his own government one year before official policy of gun confiscation in that previous revolution:

  • Empires loot, plain and simple. American sheeple are, of course, targeted and looted by the tens of trillions. Monetary reform and public banking are two reforms documented since Ben Franklin wrote about colonial Pennsylvania operating without need to tax. Benefits of these two reforms are ~$1,000,000 per US household. You literally have nothing more valuable to learn, and must, or you can kiss your assets goodbye to “required austerity.” Economic solutions for a world that works for everyone with no-one left out have been documented since Bucky Fuller over 50 years ago.
  • The US is not limited government under a constitution, but systematically removing rights once asserted as God-given and secured by government to defend Life, Liberty, and pursuit of Happiness. US military and government employees are Oath-bound to recognize illegal and lying empire, refuse to obey illegal orders (there are no lawful orders for illegal Wars of Aggression), and arrest those who issue them.
  • Our “leaders” have poverty and war-murdered over 400 million people in just the last 25 years. The .01% “leaders” of “former” colonial/slave powers and “developed” nations promised the end of poverty since 1969 at global summits, with less than 1% GNI investment (a fraction of colonial looting) for a total ~10-year project for ~$1 trillion (about what the US annually invests for military). The 400+ million poverty deaths just since 1993 is more than deaths from all wars and violence of any kind in all human history.
  • The ongoing reneged promises to end poverty with lying corporate media and public education complicity (see this astounding disinformation from the NY Times) means our “leaders” prefer unimaginable suffering and death rather than technically-simple solutions.
  • Our .01% opponents overthrow democracies challenging global empire: 80+ since World War 2.
  • They engage in democide: murder by government to keep our numbers low and weak through fluoride, vaccines, GMO non-foods, and many other attacks on our vitality (explore).
  • People around the world view the US as the greatest threat to peace; voted three times more dangerous than any other country.
  • Since WW2, Earth has had 248 armed conflicts. The US started 201 of them.
  • These US armed attacks have killed ~30 million and counting; 90% of these deaths are innocent children, the elderly and ordinary working civilian women and men (and here). 
  • The annual number of poverty deaths is equal in volume to a Freedom Tower in NYC. “Leaders” of “developed” nations have promised the end of poverty since 1969. Better read that again, and reflect on its meaning of what kind of “leaders” we have in the “developed” world.
  • Since Operation O.I.L. (Operation Iraqi Liberation; yes, that was the oligarchs’ first name), 2.4 million Iraqis have been killed as a direct consequence. 
  • A dark, deep topic on its own: they are pedophiles.

The most accurate label of the US government is rogue state empire.The US is arguably worse in corruption, psychopathy, and causing misery than tragic-comic Roman Emperors. Such “leaders” certainly have the greater capacity to harm.

There’s no need to believe anyone with any of this independently-verifiable data: look for yourself.

Other options include this White Paper circulated among Members of Congress, or this 56-minute interview to define rogue state empire with three case studies:

You don’t need further data, and that said, there’s more in abundance:

Categories of crime include:

  • Wars of Aggression (the worst crime a nation can commit).
  • Likely treason for lying to US military, ordering unlawful attack and invasions of foreign lands, and causing thousands of US military deaths.
  • Crimes Against Humanity for ongoing intentional policy of poverty that’s killed over 400 million human beings just since 1995 (~75% children; more deaths than from all wars in Earth’s recorded history).

US military, law enforcement, and all with Oaths to support and defend the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, face an endgame choice:

In just 90 seconds, former US Marine Ken O’Keefe powerfully states how you may choose to voice “very obvious solutions”: arrest the criminal leaders (video starts at 20:51, then finishes this episode of Cross Talk):

3-minute videoPolice, Military – Was your Oath sincere?

Carl Herman makes all factual assertions as a National Board Certified Teacher of US Government, Economics, and History (also credentialed in Mathematics), with all economic factual claims receiving zero refutation since I began writing in 2008 among Advanced Placement Macroeconomics teachers on our discussion board, public audiences of these articles, and international conferences (and here). I invite readers to empower their civic voices with the strongest comprehensive facts most important to building a brighter future. I challenge professionals, academics, and citizens to add their voices for the benefit of all Earth’s inhabitants.

Carl Herman has worked with both US political parties over 18 years and two UN Summits with the citizen’s lobby, RESULTS, for US domestic and foreign policy to end poverty. He can be reached at

Note: My work from 2011 to October 2017 was on Washington’s Blog, which the owner closed from Internet censorship in 2019, and here since. Work back to 2009 is censored by (blocked author pages: here, here). This means that some links in essays are inactive. If you’d like to see those articles, go to, paste the expired link into the search box, click “Browse history,” then click onto the screenshots of that page for each time it was screen-shot and uploaded to webarchive.

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29 thoughts on “Carl Herman, Where America stands for 2020 Independence 2.0”

  1. Judging by the comments here it seems that talking point 3, “Sheeple will only be moved by .01% arrests with accurate news reporting.” applies to more than just the sheeple.

    Of course anyone of us would have already thrown the rascals in jail, but we are in no danger of doing so, so you really can’t call it anything more than talk on our side either.

    I think there’s more going on than meets the eye. We don’t know what it’s like in the White House, not the restraints nor the obstacles that must be averted to keep any kind plan going through the incoming flak. In light of that, I don’t find it a stretch to imagine that communication could proceed through ‘conspiratorial’ channels. Think about it. The people most aware of the Deep State are already tuned in.

    It would be hilarious to use a ‘conspiracy’ disguise within the White House to move against the perpetrators of the CIA aspersion. This could even make it possible to reclaim the word conspiracy to its original meaning in the popular mind, and put it to use in its legal one.

    What’s not to hope for?

  2. I never spent time assimilating the whole Q catalog, but I’m thankful now that someone did. Q seems real when explained through delta as related by RELEVANT DEPTHS in his Q proofs. (Carl Herman’s link: I look forward to more videos from him.

    Carl Herman, you are an amazing organizational adept. What are your thoughts about the number of unfulfilled Q intimations? Are they still pending, do you think? How much do they weigh against the evidence presented in the Relevant Depths video?

    1. is in the UK, and yes, will become only worse to squeeze the life out of our children.

      The choice becomes more and more clear: Patriots or psychopaths.

      Perhaps wisdom of the Gods has developed this “bad medicine” as the best solution for sheeple unwilling to evolve. Earth’s robust Evil must serve some evolutionary purpose; otherwise it would not exist. And yes, Will, I’m with you to seal Evil into their own playground away from ours.

      1. C_H…One thing is positive….if Trump and Q are not working with We the People, we are FINISHED as a nation. THAT can be taken to the bank….and not the FED!
        Thanks for that video.

      2. Agreed. We need “the plan” delivered to wake up the people, or they’ll never awaken in time.

      3. Yeah, Will, Q is fascinating. It’s either what it claims as military-led White Hats, or it is not; which by definition is a psychological operation (PsyOp).

        The reason I conclude from the stands that Q is true is that a PsyOp of this magnitude is beyond over-kill for Black Hats. Look at how sloppy they are with propaganda and Hillary’s “campaign” in 2016. That’s who they are. Q-level PsyOp is next-level, and by all I see, out of their league.

        It also makes sense that military leaders would be the first to revolt as White Hats, as they literally are at the front lines of empire. Look at how much work corporate media and Dem “leadership” are dedicating to attack Trump. Would such work be necessary if Black Hats were in control?

        If this is White Hat covert takedown of the Deep State, eventually we’ll see it. Q says “Trust the plan.” I do trust in God/Life to evolve, as arguing with reality seems the alternative. Until, and if we win, it’s just another day working for Truth, Justice, and the American Way as relatively powerless messengers 🙂

      4. Thank you for your reply Mr. Herman. I don’t hold myself out as an expert and I certainly don’t claim to know everything. The post was in no way meant to insult you and please accept my apologies if did. I think we are on the same side here.

        My posts are just my stupid opinions; take what you can use and throw the rest away. But for the record, the following is what I believe:

        I believe it entirely possible that Q could be a White House insider. But regardless of who or what Q is, I don’t believe Q’s posts are aimed at helping Trump.

        I believe Q is a psyop designed to help deep state traitors buy time to until Trump leaves office by constantly supplying false hope to his supporters. And if that is the case, it has been wildly successful.

        Of course, Q’s posts often contain grains of truth, or whole truths. This is the the hallmark of a poisoned well or limited hangout. As a result, many people truly believe that arrests are imminent and that the Republic will soon be restored by Trump and White Hats within the administration. I can’t agree.

        But I think even you might agree with me that the record shows the vast majority of Q’s posts have turned out to be false, and therefore have supplied false hope.

        For example,

        Jerome Corsi and Q asserted that Julian Assange was free and had been removed to Switzerland……

        HRC extradition already in motion………

        The initial wave of arrests will be fast and meaningful and will include many member of the media…………

        I found a website that lists examples and the list is long.

        I think if you look over this list and put aside any wishful thinking that we all might have, you might come to the conclusion that I might be right about Q.

      5. Thank you, Ralph.

        Yeah, as my 3 talking points express, We the People are powerless until .01% arrests with truthful reporting. We’re on the same side with Patriots versus psychopaths.

        The “Q Map” has a mirrored component with time, along with additional wrinkles I haven’t invested time to factually demonstrate. What do you see with the JFK Jr. and wife alive component? Mike Bara, who cohosts with Jim Fetzer and Dean Ryan for near-daily “Real Deal Report” updates of breaking news, has this 25 minutes of video and film evidence showing JFK Jr. and Caroline literally at Trump’s left and right shoulders standing right behind him:

        This seems to show an elaborate, dramatic, “Biblical” plan, but hey, all we’ve ever received are PsyOps so I’m with you that we have nothing without proof of arrests that include Obama, the Clintons, and the Bushes. After 43 years’ civic activism, “trust the plan” means to me that all we have is to engage and then trust Life/God to evolve from that collective work. I’d like to be pleasantly surprised for planet Earth to be saved from Satanists, the escalation of disclosures are hopeful, and we’re still in the war.

        Thank you for your thinking on all of this, Ralph.

      6. C_H….excuse my interruption between you and Seymour. That video you posted p[resents a wealth of evidence that Q and Trump are playing off each other. Could all the examples be coincidence? Possible, but unlikely.Truthfully, I had little interest in Q, seeing it as some form of psyop, but that video did change my attitude to a degree. That does not mean it could not be a pysop…..albeit, a more sophisticated one than I thought. If Trump is trying to remove secrecy from our ‘government’, it would seem using secret means to perform that task is more than interesting. Unfortunately, we have to wait until it’s all over to come to any conclusion based in reality. That is frustrating.
        Now, the JFK Jr. ‘alive’ theory has legs…especially since Bara’s facial comparison of JFK Jr. to Vincent Fusca and Caroline to that woman who appears with Fusca. Those overlays are stunning.
        And RFK Jr. touching his nose to respond to a chat request is startling.

      7. It’s all one big intelligence mind fuck and it has been this way for a long time and they get away with all this dumb shit because the populace has no clue.

        Christ, most people believe this stupid Covid Hoax.

        Paul Craig Roberts correctly states that the American people are so stupid there is not hope. I have to agree.

      8. RS…As much as I understand your frustration…I have the same….calling our fellow Americans stupid does not exactly ‘keep the conversation open’.
        A question such as “Why do you feel this way?”….might serve us better.
        They want us divided and so far, that strategy is working like a charm.

      9. Thanks for the link to a list of Q’s failed predictions.

        The very latest moving of the goal post for hopium predictions, though more woo woo related rather than Q related, is …

        “keep your eyes on Brennan.” “Brennan is toast.”

      10. Hi Dachsie. So you conclude Q is a just another Black Hat PsyOp?

        If so, what is their plan?

        I had been putting my Black Hat on, and imagining this as a way to awaken just enough Patriots to spark Civil War 2.0 to end the US. But to me, this looks too risky and unnecessary. If I really wanted to end the US, why not have a nice smooth government then use the pandemic scare but only AFTER the “vaccine” was ready. Kill millions, then use the military to “quarantine” Patriots to cull. But anyway, I can’t imagine any story of a Black Hat PsyOp that seems practical given what’s been rolled out with such weak propaganda in Russia-gate, fake impeachment, Obama-gate, the laughable campaigns of Hillary and Biden the last two elections, and the plandemic.

      11. Carl_Herman says:
        July 13, 2020 at 6:24 pm

        Hi Dachsie. So you conclude Q is a just another Black Hat PsyOp?

        No, Dachsie does not conclude that Q is just another Black Hat PsyOp.

        I do not think much about it anymore. The deception and manipulations are a bit too deep for me.

        Still no prosecutions. Always excuses or special circumstances for the top rats.
        Maxwell appears to be playing in the same movie Trump and Barr are in. Each side is trying to look like they are fighting a real fight against each other. Q has been saying for a couple of years that “we have it all.” If that were true, there would be no need for this game playing.

      12. We’re all frustrated (to say the least…a more exact phrase would be ‘absolutely fed up’) with Trump’s inaction. IF or when he finals makes his 6D move, HOW will it come anywhere near making up for the loss of property, injury, degradation and disrespect to our country, incalculable losses due to the fake corona nonsense, changes to our everyday lives, damage to our children and educational process…on and on and on? There is little or nothing he can do to repair damage this is irreparable. All that has been done is beyond fixing. The damage goes too deep into the human psyche. The scars cannot be erased.


      13. Yes, Will, we’re witnessing what Hell’s “leaders” do to destroy people who will be free. It’s evil not only beyond what almost all people imagine, but EVIL beyond their capacity to imagine.

        Thank you for your leadership to see what must be seen, say what must be said, and take actions that must be enacted for truth and freedom. The sheeple are being offered choice that is becoming more and more polarized. After 43 years of engagement with this EVIL, my own conclusion is that choice for evolution is one of the main points, with us as powerless messengers making the choice clear: be a Patriot or kneel to psychopaths.

        The good news is that all the harms (for the living) can be addressed. We have economic solutions ready:

        The “orders” for masks, “non-essential” people, keeping away from our friends, etc. are bullshit lies that will be exposed and ended in court:

        As you know, it’s a war between Good and Evil. And the war is hot.

        You and I have had enough of this war, with the fighting (including standing alone among friends, family, colleagues) witnessing the torture and death, and enduring sheeple controlled to their slaughter. Life/God/Program or whatever, however, persists in reality at least for now to continue this “show” that Q must have the acquired taste to enjoy that we have not yet acquired.

        May we have a “happy ending” that we’re ready for.

        But until victory, keep moving soldier 🙂

      14. This from Jon Rappoport

        Dispatches from the War: Trump and Fauci, a marriage made in the Beelzebub Room of the White House
        Welcome to Let’s Pretend. Let’s pretend everything is OK and Nice and Polite are going to win the day, and no one is going to have to give up his position in life or his security. The missiles fired into the heart of the economy will have no lasting effects. Politicians who can’t find their asses with both hands will put things right. Fascist governors and mayors will soon abdicate their power and never lock down their populations again, no matter what. It was all just a bad dream. A cloud passing over the sun for a few minutes.
        (To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
        There’s a reason MY contract tracing led to you, Mr. Trump.

        You’re the only one left in the menagerie. You’re the only political animal who could offer a shred of a sliver of a slim ray of hope. To push back the invaders.

        Several times you’ve said, “It’s no good if the cure is worse than the disease.” Surely you understand by now, the cure IS the disease. The H-bomb that went off in the middle of the economy was and is the whole point of the invasion, which has been taking place under your nose.

        With your assistance. As a result of your failed marriage to Tony Fauci.

        Let’s put aside the gloss, Mr. Trump. You understand the real effects of the lockdowns. The effects the networks refuse to lead with, on the evening news.

        There is the symbolic economy, represented by the careening up and down stock market. Then there is the real thing—the businesses and lives destroyed.

        Nixon and Kissinger. Bush and Cheney. Bill and Hillary. They don’t hold a candle to you and Fauci.

        You allowed Fauci to become head of the coronavirus task force, and to remain in that position, spreading vast clouds of overblown lies about the “pandemic” and the fascist measures needed to stem it.

        That’s a crime you’ll have to live with.

        But you can do something about it. The governors won’t. The mayors won’t. Believe me, I’ve looked high and low to find someone other than you, to whom I could send these dispatches. Some noble figure in the American landscape with power, who could turn the tide in the economic war against the people. I don’t see one. You’re the default choice.

        You sat in the Oval, when Fauci slithered up to you with the absurd computer projections Neil Ferguson authored, and that psychopathic freak, Bill Gates, bankrolled. You accepted the numbers of deaths Ferguson predicted. Two million in the US. You never had your people investigate Ferguson. In an hour, they would have discovered he had a long track record of abysmal failures. Failure is his whole story. Yet, you took those numbers and allowed Fauci to run with them. Leading the nation into a crushing economic dead-end.

        So you see, you’re actually part of the war against the people. If you’re going to be a General now, you’ll have to admit that. You’ll have to fire Fauci and stand up straight and reclaim your own soul.

        If hundreds of thousands or millions of Chinese soldiers were encamped in cities and towns across USA right now, smashing the American engines of production, don’t you think you’d be justified in sending in the troops? To liberate the people? Would anyone is his right mind cite Posse Comitatus to try to stop you?

        Well, the US governors and mayors and public health officials are our enemies, and their lockdowns were and are the war. So send in the Army and liberate those towns and cities. Forcibly. Open the American economy all the way. Permanently. Tell your opponents, THE CURE IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE. Tell them 50 million Americans out of work is intolerable.

        You’re supposed to be the riverboat gambler. So shove in all your chips on this one, Mr. Trump. Crack the media delusion that all is well in America, if we just “stick together,” which means bowing down to the masks and the distancing and the dehumanizing and the isolating and the tracing and the testing and the vaccinating and the shredding of the economy.

        As you know, COVID is one supermax lie. Nothing worse than a flu season is happening in the world.

        Of course, I’m out of my mind. I must be. Who could imagine sending in the Army to liberate the people, so they could live free?


        Better to huddle in fear. And wait. For the keeper of the cage to open the door.

        So we can go out for a little while.

        Right, Mr. President?

        Until the next time, the next wave, the next crisis—tomorrow.

      15. CH…I venture to say that when I confront Paneras this coming weekend and refuse to wear a mask (I already checked with Lake City, Fl and they have stated that masks are not mandatory and am waiting for their response as to the legality of Paneras ‘decree’), they will BACK DOWN rather than expose themselves to the liability of my wearing a mask. I already found a friend to video the event (if there IS one).

      16. Well said from Jon, Will; thank you.

        Yeah, Neil Ferguson was and is a known bullshitter intentionally kept in a bullshit “non-health” system, and pushed onto us by bullshit corporate media:

        “Importantly, the computer model predicting up to 2 million American dead from virus is confirmed as a criminal lie, with that “official expert” caught having an extramarital affair in multiple violations of his own recommendation of healthy persons’ “quarantine.” That hypocritical liar also predicted up to 200 million dead from Avian Flu in 2005 (low hundreds died), in 2009 predicted 65,000 dead in the UK (he was off by 64,500+), and in 2001 his false projections of Mad Cow Disease culled ~14,000,000 healthy animals. Who listens to this fear-mongering incompetent, and why hasn’t he been demoted to lab work? Why did Dr. Fauci use this incompetent model from a proven incompetent for the worst economic attack on Americans in our nation’s history??? I could go on with dozens of other documented lies, such as this 6-minute video of a STAGED crisis actor pretending to be nurse, House Speaker Pelosi lying: “The President is asking people to inject Lysol into their lungs,” and Investment Watch’s documentation of more lies.” Source with much more:

      17. Will, this is how they will subvert your mission at Panera’s; you will have other ‘channels’ to get service.
        Good luck! and don’t relent!


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