Whitney Webb, Meet the Israeli Intelligence-Linked Firm Using AI to Profile Americans and Guide US Lockdown Policy

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An Israeli government contractor founded by a former Israeli spy has partnered with one U.S. state and is set to announce a series of new partnerships with other states and U.S. healthcare providers to monitor civilian health and use an IDF-designed AI system to profile Americans likely to contract coronavirus and to inform U.S. government lockdown policy.

A company tied to Israel’s military signal intelligence unit, Unit 8200, has recently partnered with the state of Rhode Island to use an artificial intelligence-based system developed in tandem with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to profile Americans potentially infected and/or “at risk” of being infected with coronavirus, then informing government authorities of their “risk profile.” Once flagged, state health officials can target those individuals as well as their communities for mandatory testing, treatment and/or more restrictive lockdown measures.

The firm, Israel-based Diagnostic Robotics, is poised to announce a series of new such partnerships with several other U.S. states as well as major U.S. hospital systems and healthcare providers in the coming weeks, according to a company spokesperson. The first of these announcements came on June 30 regarding the firm’s new partnership with Mayo Clinic, which will soon implement the Diagnostic Robotics’ “artificial intelligence platform that predicts patients’ hospitalization risk.” They have also been in discussions with Vice President Mike Pence about the platform’s implementation nationwide since April.

Their creeping expansion into the U.S.’ state coronavirus response and that of other countries has been directly facilitated by the organization Start-Up Nation Central, funded by controversial hedge fund manager Paul Singer and directly partnered with an Israeli government-backed intelligence initiative aimed at making the United States dependent on technology developed by the Israeli military or intelligence community as a means of preventing the adoption of policies that support the non-violent Boycott, Divest and Sanctions (BDS) movement at the state and local levels. This initiative also serves the dual purpose of ensuring Israel’s political influence and positioning as the global “cyber power,” an oft-repeated policy goal of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Since March, Diagnostic Robotics’ AI-based “risk profiling” software for coronavirus has been utilized by the Israeli state in the form of the National Israeli COVID-19 Monitoring System, a key component of its increasingly Orwellian national health surveillance system. That system, which also initially partnered with Clalit — Israel’s largest health services provider, now involves the “daily nation-wide monitoring of coronavirus-related symptoms of the population.” Of course, these “coronavirus-related symptoms” include common symptoms such as headaches, coughing, abdominal pain and confusion, which can indicate any number of minor illnesses, allergic reactions or other conditions entirely unrelated to coronavirus.

The Diagnostic Robotics platform specifically acquires information from individuals via an online questionnaire, but also has access to national and private health databases by virtue of its partnerships with Clalit as well as all four of Israel’s health management organizations (HMOs), all of the country’s domestic healthcare providers and Israel’s Health Ministry. That data is then pooled and analyzed to assess a given individual’s “probability of infection” that is then cross checked with the information of “millions of others,” according to the company’s co-founder and Unit 8200 alumnus Kira Radinsky.

After that mass of data is pooled and analyzed by the platform’s AI-powered algorithm, the company’s platform, as used in Israel and now elsewhere, creates a “personalized, AI-based risk profile for Covid-19” for individuals and delivers that individual’s information and any “red flags” to health authorities, providing the Health Ministry with a map of corona “hot spots” that the government then uses to identify which communities to target with testing and more restrictive lockdown measures. Forbes noted that Israel’s use of Diagnostic Robotics’ platform has allowed it to “quickly close contaminated areas…as fast as a single day from the identification of symptomatic patients.” An internal study conducted by the company itself claims that the platform has a predictive accuracy of 73%, but their study has not been audited by independent scientists.

Israel’s health ministry, led by Yuli Edelstein, recently announced that Diagnostic Robotics “predictive” platform would be used more intensively to inform government decision-making as he, Netanyahu and other Israeli ministers have recently asserted that Israel is beginning to experience a “second wave” of coronavirus and must implement more restrictive measures and augment the use of existing and new “digital solutions.” Former Israeli health officials and other critics have asserted, however, that there is no “second wave” given that the test used by the government does not distinguish between active and inactive coronavirus cases. Others still have argued that the proposed measures are grossly unnecessary, given that there are less than 40 serious cases of coronavirus in the entire country and only 22 coronavirus patients are on ventilators.

Notably, the timing of this renewed push for more restrictive lockdowns and an expansion of its AI-driven Orwellian “health” surveillance coincides directly with the imminent initiation of Israel’s government plans to annex large swaths of Palestine’s West Bank, an act that is expected to generate unrest, not only in occupied Palestine, but also parts of Israel and internationally due to its flagrant illegality and far-reaching implications.

Predictive Data Hotspots


After heavy promotion of Israel’s use of its platforms by media outlets and Israeli tech “advocacy” organizations, Diagnostic Robotics’ top executives announced on April 10 that their predictive health surveillance technology would soon be rolled out to “assist authorities” in governments around the world, specifically the U.S., Western Europe and Asia.

“The strong partnership [between Diagnostic Robotics and the Israeli government] will ensure that our solution is accessible to as many patients as possible, and available to different government authorities in the United States, Europe and Asia,” the company’s CEO Yonatan Amir had told the Jerusalem Post. Amir also told the Jerusalem Post that, at the time, the company was already in discussions with the White House Coronavirus Task Force “with the assistance of U.S. Vice President Mike Pence” about its software being used on a nationwide scale.

Less than two weeks after the publication of that report, the state of Rhode Island announced that the state’s Health Department would partner with Diagnostic Robotics to create a site called the Rhode Island Covid-19 Self-Checker that would collect medical information on Rhode Island residents and utilize its “predictive” capabilities.

“We are incredibly excited about the partnership with Diagnostic Robotics,” Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo had said at the time of the site’s announcement on April 22. “Diagnostic Robotics is a leader in using innovative technology to ensure people get the right care at the right time – including during the COVID-19 pandemic. By making it easier for people to make decisions about how to protect themselves and when to seek care and testing, we’re helping to slow the spread of COVID-19, support our healthcare system, and save lives.”

However, reports on the initiative and Raimondo’s statement, which was sparsely covered by local and national American news media, noted that the site “also uses predictive technology to recognize possible outbreaks before they occur.” That functionality will combine the data obtained from the site with “medical databases” to which the state’s Health Department has access. The analysis of these data, such as “likely” future coronavirus patients and potential future hotspots, is then given to the state’s Health Department and meant to inform their decision-making regarding in which areas of the state to tighten lockdowns, to ramp up testing and/or mandate treatments or vaccinations, once a vaccine becomes available.

The information collected by the site itself includes an individual’s “risk factors” and if they have any of several common symptoms as well as demographic and medical background information. A user’s IP address and device information is also collected. While the official purpose of the site is to recommend if a participating individual should seek medical care or request a coronavirus test, the Diagnostic Robotics-created site notes in its Terms of Use that the site is not intended for use as a “diagnostic tool” and “does not provide diagnosis and/or professional medical advice.” It nevertheless states that Diagnostic Robotics “has the right (including the moral right) to use, copy, store, reproduce and process your information and to create derivative works therefrom and from the Intellectual Property rights created by the use of your information without any further consent, notice or compensation to you or to any other person.”

The terms also state that the company “shall not be liable for any exposure or publication of the answers to said questionnaires or the data you entered into the system to any other party due to any malfunction or defect in the system or after information is transmitted in accordance with the company’s privacy policy.”

Crucially, Rhode Island’s partnership with Diagnostic Robotics’ is merely the first sign of the company’s intentions to rapidly expand into the U.S. A few weeks ago, company spokesperson Michal Kabatznik told the Jerusalem Post that the company is “in advanced conversations with other states, leading healthcare providers and some of the top hospital systems in the U.S.,” adding that “there will be some big announcements in the coming days.” The first of these “big announcements” came on Tuesday when the firm’s partnership with Mayo Clinic was made public.

In addition, the company began hiring a variety of executive positions for a New York-based office soon after Kabatznik teased the coming announcements of a series of new U.S. partnerships. These job listings note that Diagnostic Robotics’ is planning a major and “rapid” U.S. expansion and identifies the U.S. as its current “strategic market.” 

Bait and Switch

Diagnostic Robotics’ privacy policy, as used in the Rhode Island partnership, allows the company to utilize the information it acquires through this partnership in a “de-identified manner” as part of two different coronavirus initiatives that involve major U.S. tech firms, healthcare technology companies and/or elements of the U.S. national security state.

The first of these initiatives, COVID 360, was created by Diagnostic Robotics in tandem with two other companies: Salesforce, a cloud-based software corporation closely tied to Oracle and whose CEO/founder was mentored by Colin Powell, and Deloitte Global, one of the world’s largest consulting firms with a history of hiring ex-CIA officers. COVID 360 is described by Diagnostic Robotics’ CEO as “a comprehensive solution for individuals at risk of COVID-19 and those experiencing symptoms of the virus.” Salesforce Senior VP, Bob Vanstraelen, further elaborated that the platform is “a free full Coronavirus treatment solution for patients and citizens at risk” and is “built by Deloitte Israel, based on Salesforce Health-Cloud, and Diagnostics Robotics Al triage and clinical predictions platform.”

However, an official video from the COVID 360 initiative notes that “government agencies or caretakers” that utilize the system will send a person potentially at risk of exposure to coronavirus, oddly referred to in the video as a “coronavirus patient at risk of exposure,” a message telling them that they were found to have been “in proximity to a potential positive coronavirus case.” The message, as shown in the video, then demands that the recipient follow a link within the message and register for the COVID 360 system. Upon registration, an employee of the government agency determines which person to refer for mandatory coronavirus testing and/or treatment regimes based on government-drafted protocols related to coronavirus. The COVID 360 system is currently being used in India’s Odisha state, home to nearly 50 million people, according to Diagnostic Robotics spokesperson Michal Kabatznik.

The second initiative of which Diagnostic Robotics is part is much larger than the three member group behind COVID 360. Called the Covid-19 Healthcare Coalition, its members include tech giants and government/intelligence contractors Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir, Leidos, and Google as well as a number of U.S. national laboratories, the U.S. civilian corps and the CIA’s venture capital arm In-Q-Tel. It also includes a number of U.S. hospital systems, U.S. universities (with MIT chief among them) and healthcare IT providers, as well as pharmaceutical company Pfizer and Mayo Clinic. As previously mentioned, Mayo Clinic’s partnership with Diagnostic Robotics was announced just this past Tuesday.

The coalition claims to be a “private-sector led response that brings together healthcare organizations, technology firms, nonprofits, academia and startups” in order “help protect U.S. populations” and “provide data-driven, real-time insights to improve clinical outcomes” and government decision-making related to coronavirus. Their website notes that “coalition members openly share plans, coordinate their combined work wherever possible, identify best practices, communicate broadly and openly, and distribute capabilities in an open-source manner.” Notably, the coalition specifically directs their combined efforts to influence policy for “healthy populations,” “people at risk of Covid-19 exposure,” and “healthcare delivery systems.”

According to press releases present on the coalition’s website, the coalition “represents a vast source of data, expertise, capabilities and insights and will complement federal, state and local government actions.” Since their formation earlier this year, the coalition has released several resources, including the Covid-19 Decision Support Dashboard, a tool for government officials and business leaders to navigate how to “reopen” or lock down communities and businesses. That tool was designed by and populated with data provided by coalition members, Diagnostic Robotics among them.

Diagnostic Robotics’ Roots in Israeli Spy Tech “Special Ops”

Diagnostic Robotics was founded in 2017 by Kira Radinksy, Dr. Moshe Shaham and Yonatan Amir, all of whom officially met through their affiliation (visiting professor/alumnus, professor and alumnus, respectively) at Israel’s Technion University. The company was originally intended to help hospital emergency rooms gauge and predict patient load through the use of AI, ostensibly allowing an emergency room to make preparations in advance that would allow them to manage patient load and prioritize patients, among other features.

It was reportedly Amir’s idea to pivot the platform for use in combating the coronavirus crisis, with the company modifying the platform to serve as a “one-stop shop for managing the disease, an end-to-end centralized solution for Covid-19 treatment,” according to company spokesperson Michal Kabatznik. He also added that the modifications were initially made using the U.S. Centers for Disease Control guidance and data received from Italy and South Korea.

The company then reached out to Israel’s Health Ministry and made further modifications in order to supply Israel’s government with a “relevant platform.” Many of those modifications came courtesy of the IDF, which – according to company co-founder Radinsky – “made our algorithms part of a large operational system that had to function smoothly in less than 2 weeks.” The resulting “operational system” was the company’s National Israeli COVID-19 Monitoring System, now in use in all of Israel and much of occupied Palestine. That same system, as previously mentioned, is also the model for the Rhode Island system and those set to be implemented in other states that are slated to imminently announce their own partnerships with Diagnostic Robotics.

Radinsky’s involvement in founding Diagnostic Robotics, and her current role as the company’s chairwoman and chief technology officer (CTO), is particularly noteworthy. Her career began at Israel’s military signal intelligence unit, Unit 8200 – often described as Israel’s equivalent of the U.S.’ National Security Agency (NSA) that is well known for its hacking operations and surveillance of Palestine as well as foreign countries around the world, including the United States. During her time in Unit 8200, she was recruited for the unit’s even more secretive and controversial division, Unit 81, where she worked in “special operations.”

Unit 81, specifically has been described by supporters as an “intelligence toy factory,” whose “toys” have included land mines disguised as rocks and other weapons of war as well as tools of mass surveillance (i.e. “signals intelligence”). In the early days of the coronavirus crisis, Unit 81 was tasked by Israel’s Defense Ministry with creating “software for hospitals that can store and analyze patient data, infection tracking, test results, providing hospitals with data to help them make sense of what they’re seeing and how best to combat the everyday challenge,” software that sounds remarkably similar to the platform that Radinsky’s Diagnostic Robotics would subsequently produce with help from an unspecified unit of the Israeli military.

Radinsky was quickly recruited by Microsoft upon leaving Unit 8200 and Unit 81 to “lead strategic Microsoft incubation projects,” including algorithms to predict disease outbreaks as well as civil unrest and riots. She then created her own company, SalesPredict, which was staffed by other Unit 8200 alumni and later acquired by eBay, owned by controversial billionaire Pierre Omidyar. Radinsky subsequently became eBay’s Director of Data Science and Chief Scientist of its branch in Israel.

One month after obtaining this lucrative position at eBay, Radinsky became an advisory board member to the bank HSBC, one of the most notorious money laundering banks in the world with close ties to drug cartels, particularly in Mexico and Colombia. Less than a year after joining HSBC, Radinsky became a board member of the Israeli government’s Securities Authority, which works closely with the country’s Finance Ministry and the Knesset. It has been criticized in recent years of “tacitly consenting” to widespread forex and binary options scams in Israel’s financial industry. After becoming Diagnostic Robotics’ CTO, she left the Israel Securities Authority but continues to maintain her position on HSBC’s advisory board.

Radinsky’s close ties to the world of Israeli and global finance were likely a factor in Diagnostic Robotics’ ability to secure $24 million in funding last November, the same month when the U.S. government warned Israel of an imminent global pandemic caused by coronavirus. Since then, the lead investors in the company have been Accelmed Growth Partners and Mivtach Shamir Holdings.

Accelmed Growth Partners is a venture capital firm founded and led by Dr. Uri Geiger, a former Israeli Air Force officer whose private-sector career began at the notorious law firm Sullivan and Cromwell, best known as the former law firm of the CIA’s first director Allen Dulles that has long-standing ties to the intelligence agency.

Mivtach Shamir Holdings is a venture capital firm whose CEO and main shareholder is Meir Shamir, long-time chairman of Birthright Israel. Birthright Israel is one of the most notable “ethno-philanthropic” endeavors of the Mega Group, the organized crime-linked organization co-founded by Leslie Wexner and Charles Bronfman in 1991 with close ties to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal and Israeli espionage scandals in general. Birthright was created by Mega Group members Charles Bronfman and Michael Steinhardt three years after the group was founded and its main donors include the Bronfmans, Steinhardt, Israel’s government and Sheldon Adelson.

A Foreign Ministry for Israel’s Tech Industry


One of the earliest promoters of Diagnostic Robotics and its coronavirus-related initiatives is an organization called Start-Up Nation Central (SUNC). SUNC was created in 2012 with funding from billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer, a fervent Zionist who also funds the neoconservative think tank American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Islamophobic and hawkish think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC), and also funded the now-defunct Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI), a successor to the Project for a New American Century (PNAC).

Singer funded the organization into existence with the help of his long-time associate, former Mitt Romney advisor and neoconservative activist Dan Senor, whose sister Wendy Singer is currently SUNC’s executive director. She was previously the long-time head of AIPAC’s Israel office. SUNC’s current CEO is Eugene Kandel, Netanyahu’s chief economic advisor from 2009 to 2015.

The motivation behind the creation of SUNC was aimed at integrating Israeli start-ups, specifically tech start-ups created by former Unit 8200 alumni, into foreign and specifically American companies as a means of targeting the non-violent Boycott, Divest and Sanctions (BDS) movement that promotes human rights for Palestinians and the end of Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. It has been called “a foreign ministry for Israel’s tech industry.”

SUNC’s creation was also directly related to Benjamin Netanyahu’s “deliberate policy” to have former members of Israel’s “military and intelligence units … merge into companies with local partners and foreign partners” in order to make it all but impossible for major corporations and foreign governments to boycott Israel and to also to ensure that Israel becomes the world’s dominant “cyber power.” Singer is a long-time supporter and donor to Netanyahu and his ruling Likud party.

The same year as SUNC’s creation and this “deliberate” policy of Netanyahu, Israeli intelligence – which directly answer to the Prime Minister’s office – began instituting a policy where military intelligence and intelligence operations that had previously done “in house” (i.e. as part of Unit 8200, Mossad, etc.) were spun off into private companies, specifically start-ups.

For instance, a report on this policy, published by Israeli outlet Calcalist Tech, interviewed dozens of Israeli military, intelligence and government officials and noted that “since 2012, cyber-related and intelligence projects that were previously carried out in-house in the Israeli military and Israel’s main intelligence arms are transferred to companies that in some cases were built for this exact purpose.” The article also states that beginning in 2012, Israel’s intelligence and military intelligence agencies began to outsource “activities that were previously managed in-house, with a focus on software and cyber technologies.”

Since this policy was instituted, the line between Israel’s tech start-up industry and its intelligence apparatus has become increasingly blurred, with former Mossad and Shin Bet directors serving as advisors and board members to numerous Israeli tech start-ups. In addition, many executives and founders of these start-ups are alumni of Unit 8200 or other intelligence agencies, with some – such as Cybereason’s CEO Lior Div – openly admitting that their work at these “private” companies are a direct continuation of their prior service to Israel’s national security state.

Unsurprisingly, Diagnostic Robotics – a company partnered with Israel’s military and Health Ministry and created by a Unit 8200 alumnus – fits the profile of the type of Israeli firm whose expansion abroad is facilitated by SUNC and is represented on SUNC’s website. Indeed, Wendy Singer of SUNC recently authored an article for Forbes praising the company’s predictive population health surveillance tool and was interviewed alongside Radinksy in Times of Israel report highlighting Israeli start-ups and technologies set to be used to combat the country’s alleged “second wave” of infections.

In addition, Diagnostic Robotics is one of the company’s promoted by the CoronaTech initiative, a joint effort between SUNC and HealthIL – part of a joint venture involving the Ministry of Economy and the Ministry of Social Equality. In addition, the CoronaTech website is managed by Wix – a website building company created by a former Unit 8200 alumnus. CoronaTech’s stated purpose is to act “as a central gateway to discover leading Israeli innovation and best practices” “for healthcare providers, governments and other organizations.”

Unofficial Uses, Guaranteed Outcomes

Diagnostic Robotics’ co-founder’s ties to Israeli intelligence, the company’s backing by a Mega Group-linked venture capital firm and its close partnerships with the Israeli government, military and SUNC, are all causes for concern regarding their coronavirus-specific system’s use to monitor populations both in Israel and now in the United States. However, their partnerships with Rhode Island and Mayo Clinic, as well as those slated to be announced in the coming days and weeks, are particularly troubling given Israel’s aggressive history of espionage against the United States that has been on-going for decades, much of which has been conducted through “backdoors” in software products, hacking and other means of electronic infiltration.

Many of these intelligence operations – which, more often that not, combine Unit 8200, SUNC and the Israeli government – have also appeared to have the added purpose, not just of preventing victories for the BDS movement or ensuring Israel’s position as a global “cyber power,” but also advancing the creation of what I have come to call the “binational security state.” This agenda, in the age of coronavirus, has grown by leaps and bounds. Examples include how Israeli spy-linked tech firms are set to construct New York state’s “smart cities,” dominate the U.S.’ 911 emergency call system and offer “remote government” options to federal and state agencies, all in the months since the coronavirus crisis first began in earnest.

Many of these Israeli spy-linked tech firms also include members of the U.S.’ national security state and intelligence communities as board members or prominent advisors, including former heads of the Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff and Kirstjen Nielsen; former chief information security officer for the CIA, Robert Bigman; and former member of the U.S. Military’s Joint Special Operations Command, Geoff Hancock, among many others. Together, the national security states of both the U.S. and Israel have been steadily constructing an Orwellian nightmare in both countries, a nightmare that has become closer to reality than ever before under the guise of “healthcare” and combating the coronavirus pandemic.

Diagnostic Robotics’ efforts to predict and monitor entire populations with AI is a potent tool that can be used for many purposes that have little to do with public health. Much like “contact tracing” software that was first justified by the pandemic has subsequently been used to target and track protesters, Diagnostic Robotics’ predictive analytics and “hotspot” maps can be used for the same ends. Given the track record of the national security states of both the U.S. and Israel, such “unofficial” uses of these “digital solutions” to the pandemic are not just speculative, they are guaranteed.

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66 thoughts on “Whitney Webb, Meet the Israeli Intelligence-Linked Firm Using AI to Profile Americans and Guide US Lockdown Policy”

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  2. “How do you ‘safely’ & ‘securely’ communicate through a backchannel w/ the public and bypass the FAKE NEWS MEDIA? How do you ‘safely’ & ‘securely’ communicate w/o breaking the law and violating NAT SEC?”

    Q explains his methods in this quote emphasized in Lawrence Druce’s video, “Ultimate QProofs – Volume 1” which I highly recommended as an introduction to the Q phenomenon. Druce has the ‘Conspiracy No More’ channel on Youtube, and his excellent video provides the clearest breakdown of the series of coincidences in the Q drops.


    Q always asks, “How many coincidences until it becomes mathematically impossible?” Of course, some Qanons, the Autists, can tell you exactly how mathematically impossible it is.


    Martin Geddes is another important resource I discovered in my initial survey of the Q phenomenon. Geddes uses Plato’s Cave as an allegory of the Q phenomenon. He says Q is an exercise in distinguishing the shadows of propaganda, using reason against indoctrination.

    “Q gives us a philosophical tool to determine who is naively watching a “subjective shadow play”, versus able to reflect upon their objective position inside a damp cave.”

    Geddes compares Q to the projectionist of the shadows on the wall of Plato’s Cave. Once the cave dweller becomes aware of the projectionist, the narrative is broken. In this case, the projectionist is waving his arms to get your attention.

    For Martin Geddes’ essays about QAnon: https://www.onq.martingeddes.com/

    There is so much more to say on this subject, I’ll have to do it in subsequent comments.

      1. Not to interrupt, but I was just about to post this to your other post, so I may as well place it here….although I am sure Toni will have another and possibly clearer and shorter answer, I would advise reading this essay that answers many, many questions in regard to the Q phenomena. I have previously been anti- or at least neutral Q, but this essay and Toni’s posts have put me on the Q side. It’s worth taking a look even considering its length. I would also recommend Dr. Fetzer reading the same as I know he is also on the fence.


      2. And I just came across this as I was reading the essay…it may help….(but, of course, I recommend reading the entire essay. It’s excellent)

        The Q drops are constructed to initially appeal to those who are the most skeptical and
        open minded, and thus have the least utility for “authority” as a short cut to veracity. In
        other words, the QAnon project has created a nucleus community of critical thinkers,
        around which the public can assemble to reclaim the authority to decide for themselves.
        It’s as if the diseased Official Narrative “hive mind” is having a new “hive
        ” built next to it,
        and Q is the Queen bee of this cleansed new narrative environment. There’s no precedent
        in history for this happening that I know of, although there are many “narrative collapses”
        like the end of the USSR.
        Q is core to a new citizen me
        dia that usurps the untrustworthy mass media as their brand

        authority model collapses. This is not about citizens working as unpaid journalists,
        replicating the existing corporate media model. We are not offering ourselves as a more
        authoritative and trust
        worthy kind of news operation per se. Citizen media happens when
        citizens accept that the only acceptable authority is themselves.

      3. Oh, I thought it was clear in the links I posted.

        Q is a military intelligence operation within the administration whose objective is to rout the deep state.

      4. RS… I have provided you with all the information…please read that essay/pdf and the other links…it has ALL your answers. A week or so ago, I felt the same way…then I did some reading and research and changed my attitude.

      5. Q wants to teach people to think for themselves, so the method is Socratic. He asks questions. The drops are cryptic to allow for that. Especially at the beginning, when a certain segment of the population (those with advanced pattern recognition) were specifically targeted to dig through the first big drop. They confirmed the coincidences and became convinced of the game. Q went straight to those people first, on 4chan, to give the operation credibility and a digital army. The 4channers would not have been drawn in by open declarations.

      6. I also think it has something to do with this quote from Q:
        ““How do you ‘safely’ & ‘securely’ communicate through a backchannel w/ the public and bypass the FAKE NEWS MEDIA? How do you ‘safely’ & ‘securely’ communicate w/o breaking the law and violating NAT SEC?”

        I think it’s way more complicated than we know and probably deeply dangerous to communicate in any other way.

      7. Well here’s my last stupid question then:

        If “Q” is military intelligence within the administration, and they are plotting to somehow get rid of deep state operatives in the government, why do they feel the need to advertise?

        And thank you for your patience. Apparently I don’t have the intellectual horsepower required to understand “Q”.

      8. Ralph, if I may be so bold, I believe you underestimate your ability to understand. As much as the left wants you to believe 2+2=5, they are liars extraordinaire and would just as soon we not think at all. Your intellect is sharp enough to get that all leads to the City of London and the Zionist involvement in just about everything. Give it a chance…maybe it will sink in…or not…
        And could be we are all chasing a white rabbit. I’m a novice in this also.
        But I do know there are just too many coincidences involved in Q drops and things that happen in Trumps speeches to be happenstance.
        Real or not (and right now, I believe Q is real), one has to marvel in the brilliance of the plan and idea of communicating to true patriots beyond the influence of the MSM and a compromised social media.

      9. “Apparently I don’t have the intellectual horsepower required to understand ‘Q’.”
        No one believes that!

        “Why does Q advertise?”
        To build the digital army.

        To quote Maritn Geddes:
        “This is now the long-awaited counter-coup by American Patriots to re-establish the full original Republic. It is the “Second American Revolution”, whose goal is largely the same as the first one: freedom from unaccountable powers of aristocracy and transnational finance.”

        There is a new site for Q people here:

    1. It constantly rolls through my head the Dems are purposefully throwing the election. Is a campaign with a choice like Biden and Harris really the best they can do? Which begs the question will there actually be an election or something else looming over the horizon? Nothing and I mean nothing smells right.

      1. Here we have the Floyd farce just to demonstrate the incredible disconnect between what is happening in the streets….riots, looting, injury and death…..and the fantasy in their heads. They are either on drugs that are obfuscating reality OR they exist in another dimension and frequency. I have no other way to explain it. Of course, we could simply call them all paid LIARS and be done with it!

        “…peacefully protesting in the name of love and unity…” WHAT? WHERE?


  3. I found an interesting article on the virus. Three types of vaccine. RNA the one that Trump wants that may alter DNA, inactive pieces that are safer but less reliable, old way weak form creates immune response but may go wild “A live attenuated (weakened) vaccine has the potential to go rogue inside the body and “revert” to full strength. This is extremely rare. But it’s what has caused vaccine-derived outbreaks of polio that are spreading uncontrolled across West Africa right now.”


    1. I am not pro or con Q…..but as far as that article is concerned, I see NO FACTS included. I actually walk away thinking it’s more of a possibility than not.

    2. The agitation against Qanon is carried on by everyone from The Atlantic, to Rolling Stone, to Wearechange, to Caitlin Johnstone and they all repeat the same slur: “It’s toxic! It’s a cult! A QKult!”

      This is how QAnon is weaponized against the popular tide that Q represents.

      ‘Radicals’ like Johnstone moan that this will just cause complacency among people who should really be fighting that rascal Trump, and the MSM will issue dark warnings about the domestic violence that these dangerous fringe conspiracies always invite, using the patsy who walked into Comet Pizza with a shotgun as an example. Does anyone believe in that guy?

      The FBI determined QAnon to be a potential source of domestic terrorism, the first time that a ‘fringe conspiracy theory’ had been so rated by the agency. MSM always warns of the domestic violence that the QKult inevitably leads to, so it will be no surprise when a manufactured mass casualty event happens and it’s blamed on a QAnon patsy. I think we can count on it.

      From our experience with truthtelling, as observed in this blog, I think all this bluster bolsters the existence of Q.

  4. I’ve been to Australia several times and have spent a couple months there. Those people are trained to follow the rules. Voting is Mandatory….if you don’t vote, a voting Marshall comes to your house and asks ”what’s your problem”.

    1. Once we were moving and missed the local council vote. They fined us, no mercy.
      I recon they bumped off ex PM Malcolm Fraser, he started critizing the hov, next thing he was dead.

      1. Typo, meant to be gov short for government. I meant people that knew Fraser, got no response.

      2. I complain to Aust ABC, they don’t answer.


        You say Sweden was the experiment. They are the normal response, isolate the sick, not the healthy. The rest of the world is the experiment, isolate the healthy.

        And you never answered my question on George Soros, who said on 60 minutes USA that he helped the taking of stuff from people.

    2. As I said you yanks kicked the poms put (war of independence) so they poms sent the prisoners here. Now they want to treat us like criminals again.

      1. BillAu…What’s a “pom”?
        So, now it’s the “yanks” fault Australians are imprisoned? Would I be correct?

      2. pom is “English” , I think it came from “prisoner of mother England”

        It is not the yanks fault. It is just what happened. They stopped sending them to USA, so sent them to Aust instead. I only just noticed it lately. Many were sent here for stealing bread to live, many Irish were political prisoners.

  5. Please watch this video that was banned and the Producer arrested in front of her children. The information was so mind blowing I had to watch it twice to put the entire picture together. How are the riots so well organized? What really happened during the 2016 election and the ongoing coup attempts? From the Producer who exposed how the Sunrise Movement recruited children and trained them how to get arrested at protests. The abuse of power from the Obamas is far worse than I knew about. The weaponization of the alphabet soup agencies against Trump is so vast and yet was still not enough to win the election. Can you imagine the Landslide that is about to happen? Please watch and comment on this video thank you.

    1. dK…Thank you for putting this up again…it deserves all the space it can get. I agree with Dr. Fetzer that it merits a Pulitzer prize. Steele sees it otherwise and I strongly disagree with his assessment.
      It’s obvious the arrest had all to do with Millie releasing the video and little if nothing to do with her mothers warrant about a stolen cell. As I said in a previous comment, Ohio is one of the most corrupt states in what is left of this Union. It’s well produced and having watched it three times now, I see no factual errors as far as my knowledge takes me. AJ is pissed because he says it puts Roger Stone in a bad light. If watched carefully, nothing is further from the truth, Stone is portrayed as a hero with great honor. I had to wonder if Steele and AJ watched the same vid.
      No reflection on Dr. Fetzer, but herein we have the problem with this comment system. Things get lost. One remedy would be to have at least a comment system that highlights ten or more comments instead of just the five it now shows.

      1. Now, the word on the street is that Jones fired Millie as one of his contractors.
        IF this is true, it makes no sense that is apparent. I will say again, after having watched that video three times, that Roger Stone is not presented in a bad light. So WHY did Jones let Millie Weaver go? What is he covering up…or trying to cover up or disconnect from?
        Sorry to say this for all you AJ fans, but in the REAL truth movement, Jones is not someone to bet the farm on. He demonstrated that well when it came to SH……let us not forget.

    1. Paul gets it right! He perfectly articulates the Jewish Problem by noting that society has become inverted.

      He explains that this is the hallmark of Bolshevism and it is clear that this has now been propagated in America via our Jewish media.

      Begins at 1:18

    2. Needless to say, I hope Dr. Fetzer’s belief in Trump is borne out. It is probably true that he is our only hope to turn this things around. But I’m not holding my breath.

      As Paul pointed out in the interview, Jews already own this country. And to turn it around, control will have to be wrested from them. But how on earth can this be done when they control the money supply, the Congress and the media—– and Trump?

      They are currently advancing their new world order by printing enough money to buy up everything in the West. And that is exactly what they are doing. Think about the consequences of that. And they have the technology to control everything once that is done.

      1. Caitlin Johnstone:

        Establishment guard dogs dislike Trump not because he’s ending the wars (he isn’t), nor because he opposes establishment interests (he doesn’t), but because he’s a poor narrative manager and all too often leaves the ugly face of empire fully exposed.

        They dislike him for the same reason mobsters would dislike a mob boss who’s constantly yelling in public about how they’re all gonna go out and do a bunch of nasty mobster stuff.

      2. RS…very difficult to disagree with your assessment and Paul’s, but I would rather err on the side of hope than on the side of resignation. It’s a waiting game. If the indictments do not start soon or at the least, after the election, we will know for sure what our next step is……and I do not mind saying REVOLTION MUST be in the air. THAT will be the point at which we will find ourselves. Anything less will simply be a deeper and non-surfacing dive into eternal slavery AND the absolute end of the American dream.

      3. Do you really think that after having advanced the Jew World Order for the past 3 years, Trump will suddenly wake up on the first day of his last term and decide to try to roll all of that back, when, at this point, doing so would absolutely place his life, his family’s lives, and his fortune in jeopardy?

        Because Trump is hard to figure out, I sometimes wonder if he is stupid. But he’s not that stupid.

      4. I doubt that and I never said it. BUT, as much as I have great disdain for the Zionist influence in the US and worldwide, it’s not always about them.

        I also think Trump is too smart to second guess.

        A very short time will tell the tale.

      5. Trump still thinks that many of the fake bombings and shootings of the Obama era were real events. An example of his mental numbness is the Boston Marathon hoax. He thinks that people were injured and killed on that day.
        His understanding of the world is a mile wide but only an inch deep. He skims his intelligence reports, looses interest and moves on to his other interests. Most of his knowledge is very superficial…..which is true of most people.
        File: The city warned of an explosion that morning but few people saw the notice.

        Will I vote for Trump? Yes.


      6. “Most western countries have now become part of a Commonwealth of Nations of Greater Israel. We can recognize much of our bureaucratic governments as “Totalitarianism” and in error could call it Communism, but the reality is slightly different as is explained to us by the American Rabbi, Stephen Wise who in 1923, said, “Some call it communism, but to me, I call it Judaism…..” In simple terms, our Western culture has been usurped by Judaism.”

    1. RS…give it time…the fat lady has not sung as yet….not exactly politically correct, but I don’t give a crap. Think of the alternative. Everyone is frustrated with Trump at this moment. BUT, we have to give him credit for weathering almost four years of constant onslaught. Do you think Biden or even Hillary could have handled that kind of opposition and attack? I doubt it very seriously. WE complain constantly about what has happened to this nation and when someone comes along to attempt to fix a system that has been corrupted for at least 100 years, we get frustrated because he could not do it in four years. If he’s a fake and just another politician, I will be the first to eat a Texas size portion of humble pie. It will not be long now before we know for sure. Be patient and give the man some respect…please.
      On a personal note, I may even re-register to vote for Trump in this election.

  6. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-19/morrison-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/12572992
    Scott Morrison expects a successful coronavirus vaccine would be mandatory in Australia
    Posted 2hhours ago, updated 9mminutes ago
    Scott Morrison stands at a lectern in a courtyard with an Australian flag behind him
    Scott Morrison says he expects criticism from anti-vaccination campaigners.(ABC News: Adam Kennedy)

    Australians are likely to face mandatory coronavirus vaccinations if Prime Minister Scott Morrison gets his wish.

    Key points:
    Australia has secured access to make a potential COVID-19 vaccine
    Scott Morrison wants the vaccine to be mandatory unless there are medical reasons not to have it
    He says the vaccine will be free for Australians
    The nation is a step closer to gaining access to a vaccine, with the Federal Government securing an international deal to produce a vaccine frontrunner locally if trials succeed.

    If that happens, Mr Morrison said Australia would have a target of 95 per cent vaccination, which would account for people with health conditions that prevented them being vaccinated.

    “I would expect it to be as mandatory as you could possibly make it,” he told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

    “There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis.

    “We are talking about a pandemic that has destroyed the global economy and taken the lives of hundreds of thousands all around the world, and over 430 Australians here.”

    Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume.
    Duration: 31 seconds31s

    Scott Morrison says he hopes a vaccine may be released early next year.
    The Government has signed an agreement with UK-based drug company AstraZeneca to secure the potential COVID-19 vaccine, being developed by Oxford University.

    If the vaccine clears trials, the Federal Government would manufacture it and make it free for all Australians.

    But that’s unlikely to be until next year at the earliest, Mr Morrison said.

    Acting Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said he expected strong voluntary take-up of any vaccine that was approved for use.

    “Of course, the first will be a voluntary call for people and I’m sure there will be long queues — socially distanced, of course — for this vaccine,” he said.

    “There will be very strong campaigns to encourage people and we’ve had experience before of linking vaccination with other programs, and all of those things will be looked at over time.”

    Parents who do not immunise their children currently risk reductions in Family Tax Benefit A payments and losing access to the Child Care Subsidy.

    Government looking to upscale production
    Industry Minister Karen Andrews said biotech firm CSL would be the likely manufacturer of the vaccine in Australia if it proved successful.

    Lessons from the last big vaccine race
    The flags of the Us, China, the EU and Australia tiled behind a hand holding a syringe.
    Billions are being poured into the race to find a coronavirus vaccine, with the winner owning a powerful political tool. During the last pandemic an Australian company got there first.

    Read more
    “CSL is probably the leading producer at the moment, we’re in very deep discussions with them in terms of their capability and their capacity,” she said.

    “Depending on the vaccine that is ultimately the candidate that we proceed with, there will be differences in how the vaccine is produced and what the requirements are.”

    She said while there was the capability to produce the potential vaccine in Australia, there was not yet capacity to manufacture enough doses for the entire population to access rapidly.

    “There is capacity to potentially produce in Australia but at much lower volumes than what we would need,” she said.

    “My focus is now on how we would scale up that production, but that work is well underway.”

    Labor’s health spokesman Chris Bowen was critical of the letter of intent, saying it lacked important detail.

    “It is not clear, despite the Prime Minister’s spin and rhetoric, that we have the manufacturing capacity in Australia to produce the AstraZeneca vaccine,” he said.

    “The Government is way behind on the substance. The Government says it’s not yet time to sign agreements with AstraZeneca , but other countries have.

    “The Government was ready to go with a meme, they just weren’t ready to go with an agreement.”

    For the latest news on the COVID-19 pandemic read our coronavirus live blog.
    While the Prime Minister outlined his preference, he said the Government was yet to make a decision on making the vaccine mandatory.

    He said the Government would take medical advice on the rollout, including on who would get access first, with medical workers and the nation’s most vulnerable people likely to be a priority.

    During a round of morning media, Mr Morrison repeatedly said he expected pushback from anti-vaccination campaigners.

    But he repeatedly said he was the minister who introduced a “no jab, no play” rule, and his stance on vaccinations was clear and would not change.

    1. the Aust PM backs down says vaccine will not be compulsory
      Scott Morrison walks back mandatory coronavirus vaccination comments
      By political reporters Jordan Hayne and Jane Norman
      Posted 4hhours ago, updated 3hhours ago
      Close-up of Scott Morrison speaking.
      Mr Morrison said on Wednesday morning he wanted the vaccine to be as mandatory as possible.(ABC News: Dave Sciasci)

      Prime Minister Scott Morrison has moved to assure Australians any coronavirus vaccine will not be compulsory, despite earlier saying he expected that would be the case.

      Key points:
      Mr Morrison said this morning he would expect the vaccine would be as “mandatory as possible”
      He has now walked back those comments, saying nobody will be forced to be vaccinated
      The Government has taken steps to secure access to a leading vaccine candidate if it’s successful
      Overnight the Federal Government announced it had signed a letter of intent with UK-based drug company AstraZeneca, in a step towards securing supply of a leading vaccine candidate that could be supplied free to Australians.

      If a successful candidate is discovered, the Government wants to see 95 per cent of Australians vaccinated.

      Talking up hopes of a successful vaccine on Wednesday morning, Mr Morrison told Melbourne radio station 3AW he would “expect it to be as mandatory as you can possibly make it”, noting the devastation COVID-19 has wreaked on the world.

      “There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis,” he said.

      For the latest news on the COVID-19 pandemic read our coronavirus updates.
      But just hours later, Mr Morrison told listeners on Sydney radio station 2GB that the Government would not make vaccination mandatory for anybody.

      “It’s not going to be compulsory to have the vaccine,” he said.

      “There are no mechanisms for compulsory … I mean, we can’t hold someone down and make them take it.”

      While the Government does not mandate vaccination for other diseases, parents can lose access to Government payments like the Family Tax Benefit A and the Child Care Subsidy if their children do not meet immunisation requirements.

      Mr Morrison said the Government would take measures to “encourage” people to be vaccinated.

      PM walks back mandatory vaccination comments
      “Nobody’s going to force anybody to do anything as a compulsory measure, but we will certainly be encouraging people to take this up,” he said.

      “There will be a lot of encouragement and measures to get [a] high rate of acceptance.

      “What we want to achieve is as much vaccination as we possibly can, should the vaccine actually prove successful.”

      Days since the last reported case of COVID-19
      Last updated 20:15 PM AEST on Wednesday, August 19

      It is understood the Government hopes to have a more formal agreement with AstraZeneca in place within coming days, once a local manufacturer is locked down.

      Australian biotech giant CSL is the frontrunner for local production of the vaccine.

      Lessons from the last big vaccine race
      The flags of the Us, China, the EU and Australia tiled behind a hand holding a syringe.
      Billions are being poured into the race to find a coronavirus vaccine, with the winner owning a powerful political tool. During the last pandemic an Australian company got there first.

      Read more
      AstraZeneca Australia’s Liz Chatwin acknowledged Australian scientists had never made the particular type of vaccine before.

      “This is an adenovirus vector vaccine, so it hasn’t ever been produced in Australia,” she said.

      “This is a massive scale-up activity. We haven’t done it before.”

      Sources say securing a contract with AstraZeneca is one thing, but manufacturing it is another.

      The time and effort required for a company like CSL to “scale up” and produce a new type of vaccine for 25 million people is “enormous”, according to industry insiders, and will likely be the cause of any delays.

      Labor today criticised the agreement with AstraZeneca as too small a step and lacking in detail.

      “These comments from Scott Morrison are further proof that the Government is making it up as they go along when it comes to the vaccine,” health spokesman Chris Bowen said.

      “Of course we need a strategy to maximise the uptake of the vaccine amongst Australians — but it doesn’t appear that the Government has done any thinking on how they are going to roll out the vaccine, let alone how they are going to secure Australia supply of the vaccine.”

  7. As we regale the wonderfulness of new technology, let’s not forget our”partner” is part of a vicious nation’s murderous intent regarding Palestine. This techology will end up as part of our future surveillance chokehold. That’s good?

  8. Another reason not to have a cell….and if you do, keep it in one of those Faraday cages.
    No surprise Israel got in on this and you can be damn sure they are even more involved than what is said in this article. I just read that in Tennessee, they are going door to door and may take children if they test positive (whatever the hell that means…positive for what…something in your nose everyone has?) Quite surprised this is happening in Tennessee since I had viewed that as one of the less bureaucratic states in the union…in some counties, you do not even need a permit to build.


    1. If you’ve had a cold, flu or flu shot, you will most likely test positive for ”corona virus” because all of these are corona virus.

      Every day we see scare headlines…..Hot Spot new breakouts Here, There and Many Places. That’s because these locations have a new spate of ”testing”…..which proves absolutely nothing.

    2. The article Will gives as an example says absolutely NOTHING that he claims it does. People in TN are NOT going door to door, taking children, etc as Will claims this article says, which it does not. I live in TN and we are rational, logical, educated, and love our children. How dare Will try to use us as a scare example by making up stuff that an article does not say thinking that we are not smart enough to check the sources he claims reported what he in actuality made up! Shameful!

      1. You might be right, Lynn….it was never my intention to hurt anyone. i guess it’s time for me to retire from posting here.
        My apologies to all if I hurt anyone in anyway.
        Thank you for allowing me to post for the time I have.

      2. Will, I hope you are being satiric with your farewell speech here. Lynn is obviously upset because she is from Tennessee, so it appears that your original assessment of that state is correct. They wouldn’t put up with that bureaucracy.

      3. Toni…It was a mixture of satire and pissed-offed-edness. These one time posters who come here with their hit and run comments are not to be taken too seriously. But Lynn got me at the wrong time. All these parents have little idea what is going on with their children. IF they did, they would never allow them, to be forced to wear masks and “social distance”. They are destroying childrens minds, psyches and childhood. I recently spoke with the Suwannee County tax appraiser who was making his rounds. He was quite impressed with the signs on my car re the covid lie et al. He has told his children that if they force them to wear a mask in school or keep away from other children, to call him and he would go to the school and straighten them out. I live in a rural farming area and these country folk do not tolerate this crap. That report from Tennessee is legit and one can bet it’s typical leftist procedure just to get a foot in the door. They might pull that nonsense off in urban and suburban area rife with yuppies, but I would guarantee it will not go on in the rural area of Tennessee where they likely have the same attitude as my appraiser friend here in Suwannee. Just as they get away with these mandates in south Florida urban areas (Sarasota, Bradenton, Tampa, Tarpon Springs etc.), it does not work here. There are quite a few brain infected and fearful folks that wear masks in my area, but, except for Paneras, I have never seen anyone confronted about not wearing a mask. That would include myself.
        Lynn….give it time and if once Trump is re-elected and IF this madness continues, you WILL see them grabbing children from homes. Get your head out of the sand, as children have been disappearing in this country for years….and this gives them a good excuse. This is not fear mongering, it’s reality. IF you take it that way, so be it, but I would rather create caution and not COMPLACENCY.

      4. Thanks for that, Toni…does my heart some good. Rural Tennesseans are very simple sensible folk. My buddy, to whom I sold five acres about ten years ago was originally going to move and build in Tennessee. Being from Virginia whose building code is even more stringent than Florida went to the court house in a rural county in Tennessee to apply for a building permit. They told him he did not need a permit…”just go build your house and come back and tell us when it’s done”. My kinda folk.
        What’s going on in NZ and Australia is beyond the pale…seems they have gone full blown Communist. That’s what happens when you give up your weapons.

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