Dueling Trump, Pence Rallies in Arizona Draw Different Crowds as Lake, Robson Trade Barbs

PRESCOTT, Ariz.—One rally looked more like a catered banquet event on steroids, the other like a rock concert with all the hoopla of a religious revival meeting.

One thing was sure: former President Donald Trump and his former Vice President Mike Pence were the stars at dueling rallies in the final days before the Arizona primary on Aug. 2.

“I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican—in that order—and I’m here because Arizona—and America—needs Karrin Taylor Robson as the next governor of Arizona,” Pence said at an event for Robson held at the Tyr Tactical body armor manufacturer in Peoria, Arizona, on July 22.

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Former Vice President Mike Pence addressed hundreds of supporters of Arizona gubernatorial candidate Karrin Taylor Robson at an event in Peoria, Ariz., on July 22, 2022. Pence has endorsed Robson, a Republican, for governor in the Arizona primary on Aug. 2. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times) 

Hundreds of Robson supporters and Arizona Republican notables sat at round tables covered in black linen, dining on pork and beef tacos before the rally got underway under bright media lights.

“There is no question that Karrin Robson is a proven conservative ready to lead our state on day one,” said Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, who leaves office at the end of two terms in January.

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Outgoing Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey stumps for support of Karrin Taylor Robson’s campaign for governor at an event in Peoria, Ariz., on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

For that reason, he has endorsed Robson for governor, he said.

However, Pence-endorsed Robson currently trails about five percentage points behind front-runner and Trump-endorsed Kari Lake, a former Fox 10 anchor described by Robson as an Obama Democrat turned Republican.

“So what has become too clear to Arizona voters across this state is that Kari Lake discovered God, guns, and the GOP about five minutes before she decided to run for governor,” Robson said to laughter.

As someone whose “conservative values run deep,” Robson, spouse of billionaire Ed Robson, added, “I don’t change political parties like an outfit you take on and off. And I have never traded political beliefs depending on what was trendy.”

Less than 108 days before “a great Republican victory,” Pence praised Ducey’s leadership in the Grand Canyon State as “one of the greatest and most accomplished conservative governors in America.”

“I was for Doug Ducey before it was cool. I met him back when he was selling ice cream,” Pence said, adding that Robson had “big shoes to fill” as the next governor of Arizona.

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Republican candidate for governor Karrin Taylor Robson is trailing just five percentage points behind her closet rival, former Fox 10 anchor Kari Lake, in the Arizona primary on Aug. 2, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

“There is only one candidate in this race ready to lead Arizona on Day One even to greater new heights—and that’s Karrin Taylor Robson. She will defend all the God-given liberties enshrined in the Constitution of the United States of America and the great state of Arizona.”

“She’s going to do all of the things and apply the principles your governor has done, and she’s going to do just like we did with Arizona’s support for all four years of the Trump/Pence administration,” Pence said to rounds of applause.

However, Pence did not mention his former political association with Trump in the context of the 2020 election or the Jan. 6 congressional committee hearings.

‘Save America’ Rally

About 50 miles north, more than 4,000 Trump supporters filled bleachers at the Finlay Toyota Center for a “Save America” rally featuring America’s 45th president in Prescott Valley.

For Donald Adams of East Mesa, it was his third Trump rally in a “single fiscal year.”

“[Trump] was the greatest president this country has ever had,” Adams told The Epoch Times “As far as I’m concerned, he’s still the president.”

“That current resident in the White House—that’s a joke.”

A non-partisan, Adams said he voted for Barack Obama in 2008 before he switched to voting Republican in 2012.

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Adams of East Mesa says he came to the Save America rally featuring Donald Trump on July 22, 2022, to support a list of Trump endorsements in the state primary on Aug. 2. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

“The second time it was like this—Barack or [Republican] Mitt Romney. I finally went with Mitt Romney, but he’s a RINO [Republican In Name Only].”

“I vote for who I think will do the job the best. I voted for Ross Perot because he was a businessman.”

“Who cares [if Lake was a Democrat]?,” Adams said. “She’s already doing election integrity. She wants to fix the border wall without the Feds. The evidence of voter fraud is so prolific that none of them will be able to deny it.”

Nate Mess of Surprise, Arizona, said he came to the rally to “support my president.”

“I’m here to support many of my local candidates who will make America great again. I’m here because these folks want to keep the border closed. They want to protect education and protect our second amendment.

“They check all boxes—that’s why I’m here,” Mess told The Epoch Times.

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Nate Mess of Surprise, Ariz., was among thousands of MAGA supporters at a rally in Prescott Valley, Ariz., on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

Regarding the smaller rally in Peoria, Mess said, “I’m not surprised they would draw such a crowd after the state [in which] Ducey left our state. Ducey’s leadership has gotten us two United States senators who are Democrats, a Democrat secretary of state, a Democrat leader of education, and a Democrat mayor in every major city … Great leadership, Ducey.

“I haven’t forgotten how he shut down our state [during COVID-19]. Anybody that Ducey endorses, I’m going the other way.”

Shawn Callaway of Surprise said he supports Trump and his 2022 endorsements in Arizona: Kari Lake, U.S. Senate candidate Blake Masters, Arizona Secretary of State candidate Mark Finchem, and Arizona Attorney General candidate Abe Hamadeh.

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U.S. Senate candidate Blake Masters of Arizona speaks at an America First rally in Prescott Valley, Ariz., on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

“Donald’s awesome,” Callaway said, hoping he would announce his candidacy for president in the 2024 election.

“I hope so. We’re fighting to make some changes. Not as much as I’d like, but we’re making some headway. I like Kari Lake. I am going to vote for Jim Lamon. I think he’s more genuine. I like Mark Finchem.”

Callaway said he expects an enormous turnout in the Arizona primary and thinks it will be “one of the biggest primaries” in state history.

Gina Lasater of Prescott Valley said she supports Trump because “I think he loves our country.”

“I think he loves the Constitution. I think he’s all about ‘We the People.’ I think he’s like a father to America,” she told The Epoch Times.

Bruce Laughlin of Phoenix, formerly of Chicago, considers Trump “our best president ever.”

Concerning Trump’s endorsements, “I think he’s rock solid on every one,” Laughlin told The Epoch Times.

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Shawn Callaway of Surpise, Ariz., said on July 22, 2022, that he’s hopeful of an American First Republican victory in the Arizona primary. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

“I think he’s learned from his past presidency on who not to pick because he picked a couple of bummers last time. He had a few bad apples, but I think he’s learned how to pick the good ones now.”

America First Republicans

Before taking the podium onstage, Finchem said he had a “good feeling” during the Republican primary election run-up.

“We’ve got 11 days to go, and we can’t take our foot off the gas,” Finchem told The Epoch Times. “We’re polling at five points ahead of our closest competitor [Robson]. We’ve got two in single digits,” he said, noting that the Trump endorsement has seen America First Republicans with a 30-points advantage.

“I’m feeling good about it. What disturbs me is we have expended a lot of money on a primary, and now, because of this, we’re going to have to start from scratch with the general [election],” Finchem said.

When it was her turn to speak, Lake said to thundering applause, “This is like a lot of MAGA in one room. Wait a minute. Are we MAGA, or are we ultra-MAGA?”

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Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake reacts during a rally in Prescott Valley on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

Saying it was the “stupidest thing” when Democrats likened parents to domestic terrorists, Lake said it drove even more voters into the ranks of the American First GOP in Arizona.

“They came after us moms. It drove us straight to the MAGA movement where they care about parents and kids,” Lake said. “We’ve got the city moms, and we’ve got the rural moms. Because when momma goes MAGA— and it’s game over. It is game over for the Swamp Rats.”

Lake saved her ire for Arizona’s “establishment Republicans” during the 2020 election.

“They sat there and did nothing as our elections were stolen from us. They did nothing when our border was overrun. We will not forget them. They didn’t stand up for us.”

“You will not be forgotten—and you will never be forgiven,” Lake said.

Trump Takes the Stage

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Former President Donald Trump addresses thousands of MAGA supporters at a rally in Prescott Valley, Ariz., on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times)

At about 9:10 p.m., Trump took the stage to a standing ovation and words of hope for America First Republicans in the 2022 mid-terms.

“We’re going to elect an amazing slate of America First Republicans up and down the ballot. And we are going to end crazy [U.S. House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi’s [tenure] once and for all,” Trump told the audience.

Trump said he blamed the Biden Administration for the current southern border crisis, skyrocketing gas prices, a faltering economy, and the restrictive legislation contained in the “Green New Deal.”

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Joe Bagley of Prescott, Ariz., gives a thumbs-up to Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake at a Save America rally on July 22, 2022. (Allan Stein/The Epoch Times

“I don’t want people to mention the word ‘depression’, but where we’re going now could be a very bad place,” Trump said. “Recession is a nice word—We’re going to have a much worse problem than recession, we’re going to have a depression.”

“Our country is like a different place. It’s so sad to see. But first, we have to win a historic victory for the Republican Party this November. When we retake Congress, our highest priorities must be to end the nightmare Joe Biden has created on our southern border.

“And your Gov. Doug Ducey has done absolutely nothing to help. Talk about RINOs. He’s all talk and no action—and you’ll see what can happen when Kari Lake becomes your governor. It will be like day and night,” Trump said.

Allan Stein
Allan Stein is an Epoch Times reporter who covers the state of Arizona.
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40 thoughts on “Dueling Trump, Pence Rallies in Arizona Draw Different Crowds as Lake, Robson Trade Barbs”

  1. One of the best summaries of the 2020 election fraud and the Jan 6th “insurrection fraud” you will ever read:

    “I have watched Democrats for many years. They make it easy for guys like me to figure out what they are up to. Democrats live in a strange Bizarro World where everything is opposite of reality. If Democrats are warning that Republicans are destroying democracy, it is because they ARE destroying democracy and using the warning as a diversion. When they continually call Jan. 6 an insurrection, it is because their entire election 2020 campaign, the changing of election laws without authority from the state legislatures, and of course, the counting of the votes was, in itself, a massive insurrection. So, yell insurrection as loud as you can, as often as you can, throw it at the Republicans and see if it sticks.”
    The rest:


  2. Damn good move by DeSantis. He understands what’s really running this country (beyond the Zionists, Soros and the Rothschilds…although they are a driving force behind it).


    “The leveraging of corporate power to impose an ideological agenda on society represents an alarming trend,” DeSantis said in a statement. “From Wall Street banks to massive asset managers and big tech companies, we have seen the corporate elite use their economic power to impose policies on the country that they could not achieve at the ballot box.”

    1. Sorry about that. Because there is an effort to take this blog, I was advised not to poke the bear. Sorry about that. VERY.

      1. Understood, Jim….just happy I was not seeing things. Not happy about your shackles. But better to compromise than disappear.

      2. Would that I could assure you that won’t happen. I received bad news today that I might lose access for several months and then, if the Supreme Court rules in my favor, I may be able to resume. Working on how to handle this prospect. Not happy about it.

      3. Hopefully, not. But they are taking harsh measures to punish those who expose falsehoods like Sandy Hook. More as soon as I know. I may have to open a new blog because of a court order I am appealing, but where the Judge has not acted promptly on my Motion to Stay, which is archived here: https://jameshfetzer.org/wp-content/uploads/Motion-to-Stay-19-July-2022-filed.pdf Or my Motion for Reconsideration, archived here: https://jameshfetzer.org/wp-content/uploads/514-Motion-for-Reconsideration-.pdf I must appear in court in person on 17 August at 9:30 AM/CT: https://jameshfetzer.org/wp-content/uploads/Hearing-to-be-held-in-person.pdf

      4. Jim, this fear reminds me of Europe in the 1940s. People living in attics and basements in fear of being caught and sent to some gulag for telling the truth. Dear G-d, what has become of the USA? “I was advised not to poke the bear”. OMG. It appears that Staatspolizei tactics are breathing in the US.
        I served in two branches of the US Military to protect our freedoms…and this is what I get?


      5. First, everyone should read that motion. It’s a work of art. But with Remington as the judge, I wish you the best, Jim.

        Secondly, what are the chances of getting a picture of Pozner in court since apparently everyone has to appear in person?

  3. An early appointment kept me from posting Fulford yesterday, so here it is….quite positive:


    July 25, 2022
    Secret UK, Russia peace deal means Ukraine war being wound down

    By Benjamin Fulford

    Last week a secret deal was reached between the Russian and UK governments to wind down the Ukraine war. This is part of a broader settlement agreement that will lead to a complete overhaul of existing international institutions this autumn, MI6 and Russian FSB sources say.

    However, in a desperate attempt to impose medical martial law on the planet, the Khazarian Mafia is mounting a fierce counter-offensive by rolling out a massive bio-weapons attack. This means an international manhunt against top Khazarian Mafia agents will continue throughout the summer in order to prevent this from happening, multiple sources agree.

    OK, let us start with the visible signs that some sort of peace treaty has been agreed to. The most obvious sign was the announcement that the “fully vaccinated and twice boosted,” so-called President Joe Biden “tested positive” for COVID last Thursday and has gone into isolation.

    Mossad sources say Saudi Arabian leader Mohammed bin Sultan (MBS) “bump fisted pedo Biden right into testing positive for Covid and sent the wimp home empty-handed.”

    CIA sources, for their part, asked “How can it be that Pedo Joe has tested positive? He must be getting an AI upgrade or worse. The Alliance doesn’t need to interrogate this worn-out puppet…”

    There is a lot of speculation that “Biden” will not re-emerge and will either be replaced by Vice President Kamala Harris or by Donald Trump, depending on who you talk to. The fact is, it does not matter if the Biden show resumes or if a new “president” is installed because the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION is bankrupt and will be dismantled, CIA sources say.

    MI6 sources for their part had the following to say “We ceased the American president on election fraud. We have installed a new government in London albeit under full military martial law.”

    In any case, another sign that something fundamental has changed is that Russia has resumed sending gas to Germany via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline following a ten-day “maintenance break.”


    According to P3 Freemason sources, what happened was the leadership of Western Europe decided to ignore orders “coming from Rabbis in New York who think they are involved in a holy war against Russia.”

    The other big sign that something fundamental changed was this news item:

    Representatives from Ukraine and Russia signed Friday an agreement to resume grain exports in a meeting mediated by the United Nations, as fears mount over a food crisis triggered by soaring commodity prices.

    The deal, reached in Istanbul during a four-way meeting also including the United Nations and Turkey, will guarantee safe sea routes after passage through the Black Sea was blocked due to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.


    This means the Western starvation blackmail card has been removed. This was one of the strongest cards held by the people who control the G7 group of countries so, its removal from the table is yet another sign a peace treaty has been reached.

    It is in these circumstances that MI6 chief Richard Moore made a rare public appearance at a security conference in Aspen, Colorado where he hinted a temporary cease-fire agreement has been made in Ukraine by saying: “Our assessment is that the Russians will increasingly find it difficult to find manpower and materiel over the next few weeks.”

    He then revealed the real situation by admitting “We are in for a tough time,” and need to help the Ukrainians “at least negotiate from a position of significant strength”, because China’s leader Xi Jinping was “watching like a hawk”.


    Behind the scenes, MI6 informed the Asian Secret Societies “If Zug, Switzerland, the root cause of all world terrorism, is not

    The remainder of this Article or Video is only available to members of BenjaminFulford.net holding the respective level of subscription. If you are trying to view the Friday Video and are logged in, please make sure you hold the correct subscription level.

  4. Arizona is a shithole state and I’ve been there many times for Federal audits when I was an auditor. It’s one of the most corrupt states in regards to malfeasance. It is one of the worst states for CPS children abduction and a pederast paradise. I have a ole friend who was a federal agent stationed there and he was of Mexican heritage and his life was threaten when he asked too many questions about missing children from Foster homes in Phoenix. https://healthimpactnews.com/2019/is-arizona-a-hub-of-child-sex-trafficking-why-does-arizona-take-the-highest-percentage-of-children-from-their-homes/

    https://www.murderspiesvotinglies.com/ Voting is for slaves and if you think that Trump or Desantis will save us from the Zionist cabal or whatever you want to call them you’re a fool. All voting machines were designed to be hacked, I’ve done it and so have others.

    1. As in a recent reply to Berg, IF (BIG IF) the Repubs can gain both houses come November, there is absolutely no reason they cannot introduce and pass a paper ballot system prior to the 2024 election. If they do not, it will become more than obvious the electronic voting system benefits them as much as the current thieves in power.

  5. Truth Vs News on Jim’s Bitchute presented quite a lively debate between Scott Bennett and Jim in the following video. Bennett wants no part of Trump. I’m siding with Jim on this one. Trump is not perfect, but who else is there? Why change horses in mid stream? Trump has a passionate following, the likes of which I have seen for not even a seasoned politician in recent memory. Add DeSantis to the mix and we have an unbeatable duo. But the midterms are not in the bag for the Right. The Dems are capable of anything. They have not come this far to back down now. The Jan 6th circus is an obvious bust for anyone listening closely. A third WW is not off the table, but I’ll be damned to promote that possibility.

    Here’s that show:


  6. Pence:….“I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican—in that order—and I’m here because Arizona—and America—needs Karrin Taylor Robson as the next governor of Arizona,”

    Pence….. I’m a TRAITOR, a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican—in that order—and I’m here because Arizona—and America—needs Karrin Taylor Robson as the next governor of Arizona,”

    There ya go, Mike…fixed it for ya.

    1. Pence is a pedo and a homosexual. And I’ve seen the pictures of him and his then 23 year old First Lt. lover whom he met when he was 18 in the Indiana Air National Guard. I knew his BFF from high school very well when we worked on Capitol Hill together. They’ll all right-wing conservative nut jobs that hid behind the neoconservative party whatever the Hell that is these day.

      Peter Thiel is another one in that category until he was exposed by the creator of Gawker as gay. And then the typical passive aggressive white gay male behavior came out and he sue the shit out the guy and bankrupt him. In the end they all will be exposed Will and it’s going to be an fireworks.

  7. Politics in the US has become the dirtiest game. Maybe it’s true, Trump had to go ahead and let the Bidenestas run the show. Without seeing the horrors of the Collectivists, they would have no clue what they were giving up. It’s plain as day now. Instead of just facilitating the migrant invasion with policies, they are actively supporting it with debit cards and transportation to a nice red state under cover of darkness. Who would have ever thought the Collectivists would dare try anything that blatant? They have a bundle of dirty tricks up their sleeves for this fall. Planned-Demic Deux is already growing wings. The Propaganda Ministry didn’t bother to cover the New York Governor’s quarantine concentration camp plan to kidnap anyone they wanted, any age and intern them indefinitely. Kung Flu Two is just firing up. They didn’t bother jamming it through the state house and senate, the Health Department and Governor just concocted it out of thin air. You thought Cuomo the Homo was bad. He’s an Eagle Scout compared to this cunt.

    Did you all hear what they did to Gold Star Mom Tiny Peters, Mesa County Clerk and Recorder? She had a hard drive image created before and after the “Trusted Build” from Dominion to preserve the voting records from 2020. So they swat teamed and arrested her. Then they demanded a half million bail and played it so she would be forced to spend the night in jail. None of this bullshit would stick, that wasn’t the point. It was to provide a headline and orange jump suit photo opportunity. So her run for Secretary of State would be derailed. The Collectivists will do anything to stay in power. Nothing is off limits. If they will swat team a Navy Seal Gold Star Mom, they will destroy anyone and not think twice.

    Then Soros planted Secretary of State Gis-wold had the nerve to post Face Book ads telling us how trusted and safe our elections are. What jive. Just finding the need to say that tells most of us with a brain it’s all a sham.

  8. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that the 2020 US presidential election was rigged. I knew it was going to happen the day the America’s Front Line Doctors website was pulled off the Internet the very first day it was put up, right while I was using it. I never liked Pence from the outset. “Christian” conservatives are bad news. Trump saved the Republicon Party. Many of Trump’s picks have been terrible. Niki Haley, John Bolton, and Pence are all losers. It’s clear Pence has turned on Trump. I don’t see Trump as the perfect candidate, but he’s a lot better than the demented fraud that is Resident now, and there is not the slightest doubt that Trump is and was better than corrupt Hillary ever could have been. The Democrat party of today is not the Democrat Party of the past. It should be renamed the “American Communists and Transgenders Party.” Trump should have started a viable 3rd party, but he didn’t. The Republicons have never been any good. Dick Cheney orchestrated 9/11 just like the dirty Demonrats orchestrated Jan 6th. Presently we have no choice other than to support Donald Trump. Unfortunately if the Dems rigged the election successfully once, they can do it again. You can’t vote your way out of election fraud, and it’s folly to think that you can.

    1. The jury is still out on 2024. Although illegal Dominion and other voting machines are still in use in most states, many states have either tightened election laws on their own (e.g., GA) or were forced to by courts (e.g., PA & WI). (AZ would have had it not been for Ducey’s veto.) The test will be in the gubernatorial races in November–if GA, AZ, WI, PA, and MI all elect pro-Trump GOP governors, future voting will be tightened to the point where massive fraud will be impossible and Trump will carry those states (and the presidency). But that may not happen. It’s hard to believe that woke, leftist governor Gretchen Whitmer–she of COVID hypocrisy and corruption fame–can win in MI after the disastrous COVID lockdowns and continuing economic mess there, but polls show she has a ten-point lead over potential GOP rivals at this point.

      1. If Americans would get up off their asses and DEMAND a paper ballot before 2024, this would all be moot….but it seems that kind of involvement would be too inconvenient for most Americans…sad testimony.

      2. Vote cheating in 2024 will be 100 times worse than in 2020. Now the Dems know they can get away with cheating. Why? The DOJ permits it. The USA is in the top of the list of corrupt nations. Prove me wrong.

      3. “Vote cheating in 2024 will be 100 times worse than in 2020”.

        A bit hyperbolic, wouldn’t you say, Don?

        IF we get to 2024 via a sweep in November and changes to a paper ballot, Trump and DeSantis will win with one of the greatest majorities ever.

      4. Trump has zero chance in 2024 and he knows it. There will be few if any paper ballots in 2024. The US voting is more corrupt than most people will admit. The Dems have learned that cheating in elections is ignored by the DOJ.
        Sad to say but few people on this blog have any idea how damaged the US really is. Some people are outraged about it but they have no real power to do anything….they just whine and stamp their feet. For anything to change there will have to be massive changes in the entire government of the US. What form of change it will be, I have no idea but it will be cataclysmic. Like nothing ever seen before on this planet. Massive vote cheating was allowed to happen 2020 and it will happen again unless huge changes are made. Will these changes be made…..very doubtful. Hyperbolic? Not in the least.

      5. OK, Don….then I have you on record saying the cheating will be 100 times worse than in 2020 and you have said that is not hyperbolic. You do understand that is not logically and numerically feasible, do you not?

      6. Ok Will2, I have you on record that ” Trump and DeSantis will win with one of the greatest majorities ever.”

      7. Don, there is a name for that type of fallacious argument that escapes me at the moment.

      8. Will 2, there is nothing hyperbolic about what I am saying. Just look at what Jim is facing.


      9. Don…..if “100 times ” is not hyperbolic, then God didn’t make little green apples.

      10. Additionally, if Trump runs, he will win and i am willing to back that up with a hundred bucks…are we on?

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