Stephen Eric Bronner, Afghanistan’s Footprint

By Stephen Eric Bronner

In Memory of Stanley Aronowitz

ormer secretary of state Colin Powell’s “pottery barn rule” applies: “You break it, you own it!” Perhaps: but then you can always throw “it” away. That’s what occurred in Afghanistan, known as “the graveyard of empires” because it has historically been difficult to govern and more difficult to conquer. The United States sent in a raiding party to capture Osama bin Laden following 9/11/2001 and then, like “the man who came to dinner,” remained for 20 years – just long enough to keep rekindling an endless civil war, install its proxies, and then leave the nation to rot. Not that this hasn’t happened before in Vietnam and in Syria. There, too, we came, we wrecked, we lost, and we left – though we still engaged in a few post-departure drone strikes and some useless bombing for good measure. Following President George W. Bush’s proclamation of ”mission accomplished” in Iraq, roughly 1/4 of its population wound up either dead, wounded, homeless, or in exile. The Iraqi infrastructure was in shambles, the ecological damage remains brutal, and even given the way things work, it’s a miracle that Bush and his neoconservative henchman escaped indictment by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

Now the shoe is on the other foot; it’s Afghanistan’s turn to leave its footprint in the sand. Having thrown out the former Soviet invaders in 1989, the Taliban have finally done the same to the United States and, for better or worse, established itself as a sovereign state. To be sure, there is chaos at the airports, everyday people are scared, and the government is preparing for a shakeup. But the chaos will pass, civilians will adapt, draconian punishments might fall by the wayside, and perhaps the new regime will keep its promise of blanket amnesty for those in the old regime and create an Islamic yet “inclusive” society. Such a program would contradict the extremist identity that inspired the Taliban over the years. It is difficult to assume that religious absolutists will extend the hand of friendship to the “other.” Skepticism is necessary concerning the Taliban’s avowals of pluralism and recognition of women’s rights. Nevertheless, the United States and the world community should remain agnostic for now about how this will all turn out.

Today, indeed, caution and uncertainty are virtues. Acting precipitously in the aftermath of the attack on the Twin Towers first led the United States into the quagmire, and the war was lost as soon as the failed kidnapping made way for a full-scale invasion. The United States took charge of a fractured anti-Taliban coalition of warlords and tribes that lacked a unifying sovereign. Its military proudly occupied cities like Kabul and the ancient city of Kandahar. American forces lacked support in the countryside, however, and military command made things worse by backing up Afghani ground troops with bombings that produced havoc among civilians. Worse: there was nothing to be done about the ingrained corruption of the Afghani state with its drug economy.

As with the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria, America’s civilian government was constantly misled by a mendacious and self-interested military establishment. Seeking increased funding with each new budget, it celebrated supposed victories in public, while cynical rumors about inevitable defeat made the rounds in private. With each new budget came the spurious justifications for increased funding. Greed was also complemented by ignorance, and ignorance by arrogance. American policymakers consistently underestimated the diplomatic and military skill of the enemy – perhaps because there was so little expertise concerning the actors involved and the region’s political complexities.

The United States went into Afghanistan nominally allied with sixty nations and under cover from the United Nations, which legitimated its attempt to capture Osama bin Laden as an example of self-defense. But that enterprise generated a dynamic of its own. Over the last twenty years, at its peak, 100,000 troops were in Afghanistan. By 2017, there were 15,000 left and then, after cordially announcing its date of departure as 9/11/2021, there were none. Or no, there were 2,500 troops, reinforced on August 14, 2021 by another 1000 — no wait, 4,000 more are ready to go. Who cares? What counts is that we are getting out – or not.

Public opinion might just swing back the other way given the polarized state of American politics and its momentary enthusiasms. “Shock” that the Taliban took military advantage of peace talks or the American withdrawal, rather than halt its advance to please its enemy, is either disingenuous or criminally naïve. What’s more, the Taliban would have made good on its advantage whether troops were pulled on May 1, 2021 – as President Donald Trump promised – or today or tomorrow. Blaming Biden for pulling out too soon is absurd. That the withdrawal of American troops could have been undertaken with more finesse is another matter, though even then the victor’s footprints would have been left behind.

The United States Embassy will soon be empty – or in rubble. American arms are being confiscated by the Taliban. German, French, and Italian diplomats are trying to leave. UN peace-keepers and human rights activists are stuck. Communication has broken down. Immigrants are massing on Afghanistan’s borders. Its citizens hover between the ambitions of warlord politicians representing the old proxy state, outright anarchy, and victorious theocratic genocidaires ready (perhaps) to make more heads roll.

How could it come to this? What were our policy-makers thinking? Best to begin with a very American trait – we don’t like to lose! Remember: Donald Trump began his presidential campaign in 2015 not with a white supremacist diatribe, but by rhetorically asking – “when was the last time we won anything?” Four presidents extended America’s stay in Afghanistan, or vacillated concerning its departure, in part because none of them wished to take responsibility for being the first commander-in-chief to lose a war.

Leaders like to think about their legacies; it’s undoubtedly part of being a leader. Following 9/11, it is easy to forget, Islamophobia was galloping through the United States like the plague. Enraged citizens were calling upon the government to “do something” while eating their “freedom fries.” But times changed – albeit somewhat slowly. According to a March 19, 2021 report by Brookings, more than 60% of Americans supported withdrawal (without a timeline) while 20% opposed it. Getting out must have seemed a prudent political decision for Biden to make – at least at first. Whether or not Biden was actually surprised by events, they shook the American public out of its lethargy regarding the conflict. The right felt angry and betrayed, while the left felt manipulated and guilty.

The United States never coherently articulated the strategic goal of its Afghani policy, outside of killing Osama bin Laden, and it suffered a severe bout of “mission creep.” This malady refers to the unconscious and gradual transformation of aims and the ever-changing justifications required to support them. The seemingly simple plan to eliminate a terrorist quickly got out of hand. Soon, the United States was providing military support for the enemies of those who were hiding him, namely, the Taliban. In for a penny, in for a pound: conflict between warlord leaders made it necessary for the United States to prop up a pathetic regime and ultimately identify with its proxy sovereigns, who had as little support as their predecessors in Vietnam and Iraq. What was previously seen as a civil war thus became America’s war, which made the fear of losing greater, and lessened the urgency of preparing an exit plan.

President Biden inherited a mess that he clearly made messier. Once Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations and a supposed expert on foreign affairs given his vast “experience,” which Oscar Wilde noted “is the name we give to our mistakes,” Biden had originally supported the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq. He tamed down a bit while vice president during the Obama years. Yet his decision to withdraw from Afghanistan was a bold reversal. He promised that all would go smoothly. But then came the “bad optics,” and the scenes reminiscent of Saigon in 1975.

The Republicans were quick to pounce, and they followed Trump, their leader, by calling for Biden’s resignation. As usual, of course, the former president offered no meaningful policy alternative. His own improvised peace treaty was thoroughly muddled: there was nothing substantive about human rights, evacuees, or the condition of women. That the former president should now call on Biden to resign for leaving these victims in the lurch – and for incompetence – exhibits a hypocritical chutzpah that is extreme even for our most prominent gangster politician.

Claims that Biden should have included the Afghani government in the decision-making process presuppose that it was sovereign – it hadn’t been in years. He could have provided visas earlier and plans for our collaborators. The president might also have begun negotiating an international response to the plight of immigrants and executed the military withdrawal in well-defined stages. Easier said than done. Bureaucratic competence in moments of crisis is usually a vain hope. Which states would prove reliable in helping with immigrants is also unclear. Unless Biden had publicly declared his decision to stay the course, moreover, whether to withdraw gradually or not would have had little impact on the final result. It is difficult to invent an exit from a twenty-year war that neoconservatives undertook without a coherent strategy.

But there is something else. The American intelligence establishment radically underestimated the Taliban’s base of support. Unlike Boko Haram, al-Shabab, al-Qaeda, and other extremist organizations, the Taliban was never comprised simply of a few hundred fanatics thoroughly divorced from Afghani civil society. To the contrary: the Taliban represented those elements of the nation who identified with the agrarian economy, tribal lifestyles, and atavistic religious traditions, which appear increasingly threatened by Western infidels and a globalizing modernity. It is worth noting that three-quarters of Afghanistan is decidedly rural.

Who benefited from this mess? Who paid the price? Both Republicans and Democrats originally supported the invasion of Afghanistan, and they will undoubtedly point to the 6,200 American soldiers and contractors killed, the 20,000 wounded, and the $2 trillion in loans taken by the United States to pursue the war that, according to Forbes (August 16, 2021) could reach $6.5 trillion in debt by 2050. Of course, it was far worse for the Afghanis: 69,000 police and military dead, 48,000 civilians, and roughly 200,000 wounded. These numbers were surely helped along by Trump’s massive air raids of 2019.

Afghanistan is right back where it was when the United States first intervened. The rationale is still lacking. There was no geopolitical gain; the national interest was not served; human rights remain imperiled; and material costs outweighed any possible benefit. Will the American public grasp the reality? Or, better, the deeper reality beyond the heart-wrenching photos and videos of Afghanis by the thousands trying to leap on departing planes, desperately awaiting rescue on rooftops, densely crowding the roads, trembling in fear of the looming purges, dreading the repression of women, and bewailing the introduction of rigid Sharia law.

That deeper reality is: the Taliban won, the country has been wrecked, purges will take place, and the United States will lose credibility and probably suffer a new version of the “Vietnam trauma.”

As he threatened, President Biden can begin bombing should the Taliban interfere with the “evacuation,” or any other stated concern, and even reinsert troops. But using military force to salvage order from chaos does not exactly offer a plausible connection between means and ends. Such a strategy would also further harm American standing in the region. It would be better to aid those friends and allies trying to get out, either by taking them in ourselves or helping other nations to do the same. It would be better to develop some version of the Berlin airlift of 1948-1949, which successfully dropped food and supplies to an imperiled populace, and offer to build hospitals and clinics for the Afghani people. It would also be better to try integrating the Taliban into the world community immediately with the help of renowned moderate Imams and the Arab League.

The United States should not pretend that its original goals in Afghanistan have been met, or can be met in the future; that an alternative to the Taliban exists; that America bears no responsibility for what transpired; or that it was some “stab in the back” by liberal doves that made victory impossible. There is already revanchist talk by Republicans about the new Afghanistan becoming the launching pad for new international jihads in some tired imitation of the old domino theory – and how it is necessary to “do something!” Perhaps. But let’s first see what the Taliban does. It’s still early. Purges, pitiless repression, enforced ignorance might all come later – or not. Movements can change – and the United States must remain open to that possibility. It’s time to turn the page and, for better or worse, begin a new chapter under the title: Taliban Redux.

Stephen Eric Bronner is Board of Governors Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Political Science at Rutgers University and Co-Director of the International Council for Diplomacy and Dialogue. His most recent book is The Sovereign (Routledge).

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79 thoughts on “Stephen Eric Bronner, Afghanistan’s Footprint”

  1. Fulford makes some very interesting points in regard to Afghanistan.

    ((“…….. the prisoners that were released from jail were not terrorists or Isis. They were political prisoners who were against the cabal that had been controlling the country for the last 20 years.”

    Now 90% of the opium fields were burned to the ground by the Taliban. This has stopped the cash flow for the cabal/deep state. They are very desperate now. They cannot get cash from the Federal Reserve. London is also not issuing any more cash. The ECB is not printing any more cash as well…Watch for a big false flag.”))

    September 6, 2021

    As World is Distracted by Afghanistan, Germany and Japan Declare Independence By Benjamin Fulford Weekly Reports

    The collapse of the post-war Western “globalist” regime is accelerating. The U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan and much of the rest of the Middle East is just the beginning of the end for the Khazarian Mafia. Perhaps the biggest overlooked story is regime change in Germany and Japan, their opponents during WWII.

    This is not just about the resignation of German Chancellor Angela Hitler (Merkel) and Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga. This is about these countries reasserting their independence for the first time since 1945 (see below for details). Without Germany and Japan, the G7 will become the G5 and eventually the G0.

    Of course, if you live in the ever-shrinking bubble of the KM corporate propaganda media, you will be told the U.S. is withdrawing from the Middle East in order to focus on China. However, since the fake U.S. Biden regime depends on Chinese money for survival, they are trying to convince people that China is going to finance their war against China.

    As Qin Gang, China’s ambassador to the United States told a group of U.S. “leaders” last week, the U.S. “government” is depicting China as “its rival and imaginary enemy, just like when Don Quixote tilted at windmills.”

    This nonsense is just part of what can only be described as chaos. The tired old metaphor about running around like a headless chicken best describes the situation in the West now.

    To understand how the G7 dominoes are destined to fall let us look at the real impact of what happened in Afghanistan. Here is how a senior CIA official in Asia describes the situation:

    “Don’t let this Afghanistan preplanned scenario get to you. It is mostly all turned around by the MSM and their puppet masters.

    For example, the prisoners that were released from jail were not terrorists or Isis. They were political prisoners who were against the cabal that had been controlling the country for the last 20 years.
    Now 90% of the opium fields were burned to the ground by the Taliban. This has stopped the cash flow for the cabal/deep state. They are very desperate now. They cannot get cash from the Federal Reserve. London is also not issuing any more cash. The ECB is not printing any more cash as well…Watch for a big false flag.”

    Speaking about big false flags, it is no coincidence that as the 20th anniversary of 9.11 approaches, we are seeing a systematic reversal of the neocon “Project for a New American Century” plan for world dominance it kicked off.

    Let us look at Afghanistan again. The real reason the U.S. invaded that country was to secure a pipeline and to protect heroin production. Before the U.S. invasion, the Afghan government supported a plan by Bridas Corporation for a Chinese/Afghan/Turkmenistan pipeline.

    When the Neocons controlling George Bush Jr.’s regime proposed giving the pipeline deal to the U.S. company Unocal, they were told it was too late and that a deal had already been signed.

    The neocons famously responded, “if you do not accept our carpet of money, you will get a carpet of bombs.” Then, as soon as the Americans invaded, Bush named former Unocal consultant Zalmay Khalilzad as his special envoy to Afghanistan.

    Now the original Bridas/Chinese/Afghanistan/Turkmenistan plan is back in play.

    An alliance between Pakistan and China made this possible. So now, Iran, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and India are all building their own pipelines in the central Asian region the neocons had tried to conquer.

    So what did the Americans achieve after spending over $2.3 trillion on 20 years of war in Afghanistan? Afghanistan is the world’s seventh poorest nation with 47 percent of the population living below the poverty line, while over 75% of the hopelessly corrupt former Kabul regime’s budget came from international aid.

    Remember though, Afghanistan was not a U.S. military defeat. In those 20 years of war, only 2,448 U.S. troops died in battle there. So the U.S., an economic superpower, with a population 10 times that of Afghanistan, was killing impoverished Taliban at a rate of about 100 to 1. And yet they lost. What this shows is that even if the military wins all the battles, if they do not have the financial backing and proper strategic goals, they will lose. You can win all the battles you want but if your paycheck bounces, it’s game over.

    The question now is what will the U.S. military do to stop all of their paychecks worldwide from bouncing after the September 30th fiscal year-end?

      1. Jim, I always follow what you post on your channel and am now watching what you have linked. But I must reiterate what I have posted here multiple times. WHY do you continue to allow “thesilentone15” to consistently trash you in the comment section? I attempted to refute his comments innumerable times and MY comments were deleted and now ALL my comments are deleted. I know this is getting old, but I never received a response, other than Mitchell telling me to contact BitChute which I did to no avail. I understand you may not have control over BitChute, but I would think you could at least get rid of thesilentone15 who has actually admitted he/she is a troll. I will not speak of this any longer, but I felt I had to get this in for the final time.

      2. Michael has removed some of his more ridiculous comments, which takes down the comments on his comments. I will take another look. It’s a call between freedom of speech and censorship, but I agree that some of his comments are rubbish and deserve to be removed. I’ll take another look. Let me know what’s going on. Keep me updated. Thanks! Added: Just looked and have removed his latest. Thanks for this.

      3. Yes, Michael…not Mitchell…my error.

        Still listening, Jim. It’s really a very complete report so far. Anyone not familiar with the truth of 9/11 could watch this and get an amazing education. I liked the reminder about that “vine”…I had almost forgotten that amazing piece of evidence.

        Let me mention that thesilentone15 is still up there and it’s pretty obvious he/she also posts as hellothere150. Those posts are up only to degrade you and claim you are an agent.

        More to come as I listen further…just a wonderful report. I would advise anyone to take the time to listen to these two hours even if you think you know it all.

  2. Here’s a recent photo of the crowed interior of a C 17 plane in Afghanistan. I post this because there’s a huge interest in these overcrowded planes.


  3. Just like everything else out government does their reasoning for going into Afghanistan was based on lies. Treachery and corruption of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Bush on a scale unprecedented (and once unimaginable) -> CIA, Mossad, Defense Dept Pulling Off the 9/11 attack, Trillions missing from the Pentagon who on 9/11 attacked itself, Osama the Patsy Jr. Bush’s Oswald – Unnecessary War – Worldwide Slaughter and displacement of countless Millions of innocent people, Horrifying Human Torture Systems, Cheney demanding torture / waterboarding / renditions of thousands he Knew were 9/11 innocents – The “Patriot Act” loss of our Liberties, NSA Spying, Wall Street Robbery of the U.S. Treasury and Taxpayers. NOW worldwide medical tyranny biological mass murder genocide – enslavement – worst in Human history – Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot were amateurs – FEMA camps with ‘Smart’ Guillotines – Breakdown of Civilization? Tens of millions sick, dying, dead, too Spike Protein brain damaged to self-care – Zombi Apocalypse in the making…We accepted the lies about JFK and 9/11even Sandy Hook so the Satanic knew they were not limits to their Demonic plans for us… Get ready it will get worse….

  4. The Taliban take child brides and murder women for not wearing a burka. Our own government and “civilized” governments around the world are forcing women to take clot shots that will damage their health, make them infertile, murder their unborn and end their lives. Also targeting millions of children which will at the least cause heart inflammation, block puberty and make it impossible to have children. Last week Australia forced 24,000 children to take the dangerous untested “vaccines”. If we are calling the Taliban evil we must also look at our own governments. Forcing our troop to take these bioweapons pretending be vaccines will decimate our military and destroy our nation’s security forever.

  5. I’m concerned about the CIA. As we pull out of Afghanistan how are they going to maintain their world wide heroin distribution business?

    1. EJ, I tried, but could not disagree with a word in that vid. I thought I spoke fast. If he spoke at a normal speed, that video would be an hour long. Just tremendous. We export anal sex….what a statement!
      Absolutely required watching for everyone.

      1. Between him and Salty Cracker I feel like I am really old :-))
        Yeah, our latest export :-/

        John has his own site as well is part of the crew here:

        Mostly, IMO, really good stuff. Just a bit too Christian at times for me but great insights. How they all stay on the tube is beyond me. Sort of the new breed of folks out there who have replaced all that “Q” nonsense with some intelligent stuff.

  6. EJ Doyle and EJD? Have we got one person here posting under 2 names?
    This is typical of trolls and disrupters on this blog.

    This blog is constantly under attack. Its members have even been attacked by other long time contributors. I’ve been attacked by at least half of the other bloggers. No names….you know who you are.

    Jim, sorry to say this but your otherwise civil blog often descends into jungle warfare.

    1. I was told to treat you with some respect and I will.

      You have not followed much of anything I have posted or you would have noticed that I told Jim I cut the cord with Google before changing my login here. So when I tried to log in it will not accept my “new” email addie.

      To not burden Jim with dealing with me on that I simply re-joined using my initials as it would not accept my name. Just like Toni and perhaps you gave Will Two sh*t about his moniker, now you go off the deep end and surmise I am a troll??

      Please Don, take a deep breath before you post accusations on others.

      Here’s a picture of me so you can remember what I am…. :-))


      1. There goes Doyle again – propounding upon something about which he has no clue.

        Will LIED, ok? About his IDENTITY. Just like he lied to you to pretend he only changed his user name when it was way more than that.

        Now he can thank you for bringing it up again.

        Oh, and I thought you whined, “Leave me alone!” the last time I addressed you. Why then did you invite this exchange?

        Actual representation of Doyle:


  7. The article is a good read. I agree with 95% of it. Sorry to hear the Fetz is on the fritz. My feeling is the Afghanistan fiasco was designed from the beginning to add America to the graveyard of empires, lock stock and barrel. That’s near the top of the destruction plot and the bottom is obama-nations like drag queen story time poisoning children’s minds with aberrant imprints on their pliable little minds. Avon, Colorado sanctioned this perverted and demented event in their park just before I put Eagle County in the rear view mirror. Right after that their leading conservative voice Mike Cacioppo died of cancer and with it Business Briefs, which I wrote for a few times. Mike won more court cases than the most successful attorney in that county all by himself, a lone wolf in the wilderness. Mike held the Political Hack Communists at bay for decades there without any help. He took Gulf Western to task on their mine poisoning of the Eagle River, the lifeblood of the county. The last time I saw Mike was the Freedom Conference in Beaver Creek. A truly inspiring event that will be held again this year next weekend. It’s a pricey event as $495 which I am sure I could attend again for free as a member of the press. But I don’t think I could be in the same room with Gubner Jarod Poleuphisass, one of the speakers. He wants to inject every child he can get his grubby little hands on.He set up a million dollar lottery for people foolish enough to take the death injection. Wants to deliver masks by the truckload to schools forever. Mike Pompeo is the keynote speaker. I can’t think of any more odd combination than Jarod and Mike on the same marquee. Pretty disappointed Rick Grenell and the Hemmingways power couple behind the Federalist will not be returning. But there’s some other heavy hitters like Lauren Boebert, a serious ass kicking babe who is now the Western Slope’s US Representative fighting the DC Mob of swamp dwellers. She wanted to pack a rod in Congress and fought against Fancy Nancy’s mask cult.

    I remain very hopeful for our future in spite of all the dark clouds and doom and gloom circling this vast landscape. Some might find this video full of hopium, but I think it’s worth checking out. That trip Trump took overseas in 2017. I don’t think anyone really examined what took place during the trip. This video says that grenades were dropped in the shorts of the Pope, the EU Leadership, Israel with the proof of the child sacrifices. What Trump did to the Pope and the EU, he owned them. Just take a look at the Pope’s face during the photo op and compare it to the look on Trump’s face and the ones with the EU “meeting”. I think there’s some serious meat in this bun. Especially the mission Trump sent the new Crown Prince of Arabia on to do the same with every snake in grass CEO like Dorsey, Gates and all their low life brethren. That every insane crazy over the top things they have done were designed to provoke the asleep masses of clock punchers that were too beat to pay any attention to America’s destruction before — when it was more subtle and hidden with the help of the slime ball main stream talking heads.


    1. Dave, I just posted a part of Trump’s speech from Alabama. He continues to support the deadly jab. How do you reconcile that stance? Kennedy had him on board, Gates spoke to him and it looked like he backed down after the Gates “warning” early on his administration. If he is the lesser of two evils, we need a lesser lesser of two evils. OR, how about GOOD instead of any evil whatsoever? Why do we always have to compromise?

      1. On average, Trump is about as disgusting and inept as Joe Biden. Perhaps worst of all, Trump has been throttled by his jewish landlords. He’s made many deals with the devils and now he pays. Nothing he does surprises me. Those voters that worship the ground he walks on are devoid of common sense. If you notice the main trends in our past 6 presidents, they are all compromised by individuals/groups that are more powerful than the presidents they helped to get elected. DeSantis is being battle tested as we speak, but remember that he took some of his newly chosen lieutenants to Israel where they were sworn in for their Florida positions. Apparently, DeSantis figures anything is worth the effort if he can attain the political office he covets. Another suck up to the Tribe…..just what we need.

      2. Yeah it’s the one of the things about Trump I don’t get and I certainly don’t like. I saw the part of the speech on jabs… Trump definitely endorsed them, but then he added a caveat… you have your freedom (to choose)… the unsaid part was choose wisely. Like the Indiana Jones Last Crusade where the old dude chooses the wrong challis for the fountain of youth and becomes a skeleton in mere seconds.

        I think what’s happening in Australia is deeply concerning. I see it as the prototype for what the control freak cabal wants to impose on the US. The cajillion guns stand in the way. I think it’s true that only half or some of the vaccines are the death jab. And that it was a live drug trial (death jab trail). And that the evidence for that is the people that suffered no side effects (real and actual effects).

        I think the most pathetic example of ac•qui•es•cence to the death jab was my friend Jeff. He said he took the shot “so he could go anywhere” and because his quack recommended it. And because she continued his access to opiates he does not need. It’s so pathetic I am baffled by this lay down

      3. Bahmi…..I have lost trust in any politician…if I ever really had any. I did have respect for one…the former president of Uruguay…..Jose Mujica….he seemed to really give a damn about the peasants.

      4. No one gets it, Dave. AND, how does one explain his split with JFK Jr. in favor of Gates’ “advice”…..other than selling out? Were threats made. One billionaire threatening another…ya gotta love it.

      5. Trump is still madly in love with doctors. There is only ONE profession that is able to penetrate his huge ego>>>>>>doctors.

        He just cannot get over his mad WH affair with Fauci.

        Most sane people would have dismissed Fauci a long time ago but Trump is smitten with any doctor.


      6. @Will Two, Dave, and Bahmi,

        Sticking my nose in on this if you don’t mind.

        The cliche’ “bottom line” here IMO is we all KNOW that change for the best will never come from the government (control mind) and it has to come from us. We may postulate imoportant ideas, etc. about various leaders and fraudulent elections, and the such, but all that doesn’t matter now does it?

        The best we could hope for from the government is to leave us the hell alone and let us work things out without forced injections, or any mandatory nonsense.

        Austrailia is going down right now because they had their weapons taken from them. In the As Above, So Below brilliance, when Korea and others want nukes, what it does is even things up…you nuke a me, I nuke a you.

        We all are quite aware of who most of the bad players are…the Skull&Bones, New World Order, Jesuits, Sabatian Frankist Zionist “Jews,” and others. They all get their power through us giving it up without a fight for the tokens, the “shiny” stuff.

        Seems to me a nation wide and world wide strike on all of them and they will feel what is known as the consequence of their behavior. It HAS to be a cooperative effort, well coordinated and aced out.

        To not let them walk the streets, appear in public, etc. To use the web to find their addresses and family structure and let them feel naked and afraid. No pity can be given them. They are evil, greedy, murdering bastards and the time has come to put an end to the sh*t. Not a shot need be fired. When thousands of angry people show up in 10 different places in one day, they will KNOW they need to back off.

      7. EJ…That’s a great idea. How do we start? We’ll need money to travel. As an example, here in Suwannee County, things are pretty kewl, so I have no one to harass. I doubt they would allow a Go-Fund-Me (us) to stay up very long. maybe a website dedicated to such. Do you know a provider that will not censor our efforts? I am basically asking how do we get the word out and get organized enough to pull this off? Also, to sell something of this nature, we need a catchy phrase or name for the enterprise. Being the song writer that you are, maybe you can come up with something.

        Meanwhile, take a look at this powerful video. Maybe it will inspire all of us.…the-truth-about-covid-vaccines.html

      8. >>EJ…That’s a great idea.>>

        Like cockroaches/rats/etc….where ever you find them…local school boards, county boards, etc. A total body infection from the little guys to the big I would offer.

        >>How do we start?>>

        Get out of bed, get dressed, down a cup of java and do it…

        >>Do you know a provider that will not censor our efforts?>>

        This is guerilla warfare friend. Bottom line is it is our freedom or our death. Localize adjustments for all.

        >>Being the song writer that you are, maybe you can come up with something.>>

        45 songs on Bitchute…go for it.
        Gotta Rise Up, It Starts With You and Me, Gotta Remove the Chains, Who Wants Us To Die, etc.

        Meanwhile, take a look at this powerful video. Maybe it will inspire all of us.

        Indeed, strong vid.

      9. “In order to gain freedom, one has to act free. Freedom has to be taken, not begged for, and this does not even require any violence or aggression; it just requires disobedience and dissent, and a refusal to comply with this heinous government’s orders, mandates, and corrupt attempts to control you.”

        “I will write and fight back for myself, my family, and all those that have the courage to stand up for what is right. I will defend at all costs against state aggression and never acquiesce to this state. As for those that wallow in self-pity, and refuse to speak out and disobey, that hide from the truth and expect to be protected by others, you are on your own.

        This society is mentally ill to the point of total apathetic confusion.” Gary D. Barnett 8/25/21
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        From my desk top, INRE: The “Pandemic” written May, 2020 posted at as many sites as I could:

        PROBLEM: Coronavirus
        REACTION: “Do something”
        SOLUTION: Most anything they desire…forced vaccines with possible ID badges to validate and ostracize those without vaccinations with no public access, schools, banking, shopping, etc. and fascism hidden behind “public concern.”
        – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
        They weren’t listening then and they are barely listening now, although I am averaging about 50 views a day of my music since my March 6th birthday.

      10. EJ….Serious inquiry….Would we have more success organizing a massive protest involving millions and millions OR forming guerrilla f\actions? Either case needs some form of organization. Are our Fella Amerikans more likely to act together \in millions or separately in covert actions as individuals?

      11. Tried to get back sooner on line but I made the mistake of upgrading my Firefox and lost everything :-/ And when Toni ragged me the other day about not understanding how the reply stuff works, she is right, I don’t, but I am at least trying hey?

        >>EJ….Serious inquiry….Would we have more success organizing a massive protest involving millions and millions OR forming guerrilla f\actions?

        Just my guess but had we the millions to act out, like in Europe or Australia it should have happened when all the vaxx death numbers were being released or the mandatory nonsense or the stolen election, etc. came about.

        So I would think that true, non violent resistance or “guerrilla” action is the key, and done as I said, locally BUT with a sort of website “board” for ideas and stimulation but no dates, places, etc., just offering suggestions, tactics, etc. That would keep any infiltrators ineffective. Much like we are doing right now. The exchange of “ideas” and not threats or call to arms can’t really be banned.

        Your FLA issues are somewhat different then mine in AZ, but the tactics should be quite familiar. Show up to meetings, well dressed, well prepared, calm and articulate and to the point on what ever issue is at hand. That gives them no ammo for “a bunch of angry hippies showed up and….” Really good stuff is good looking women “backing” up the men…it draws the media whores to get air time.

        You can see how the tic tok purple haired, over tattooed, angry, nonsense speaking “feminists” just get made fun of, don’t want that for us. Lots of smart, articulate, 2A conservative women available.

        >>Either case needs some form of organization.>>

        Absolutely. They have killed off physically and metaphorically most leaders of hope and vision. So that is why I am saying with thousands of little fish leaders in the big pond the controllers will be unable to stop it.

        >>Are our Fella Amerikans more likely to act together \in millions or separately in covert actions as individuals?>>

        You know the saying about opinions are like….some stink, some don’t? 🙂 I no longer have brain on the pulse of our nation with som much lieing and obfuscation of the truth. A very important thing is to some how intice younger folks into using their skills…memes, video production, etc. to help out.

      12. Here is a good example of where the focus of resistance could be used:

        According to Mississippi Health Office, the patients of COVID-19 who refuse to self-isolate may be fined $5000 and even sent to 5 years in jail or both.
        – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
        If hundreds of people all across the state defied the order, what are they going to do? Jail everyone, that in itself would be red pill ammo.

        However, just what is really going on we well know…

        1. There has been no isolation of the “virus” “Covid-19” world wide.

        2. The RT-PCR tests do not diagnose, they just harvest cell samples seeking genetic sequences (bits of NON-human DNA) not specifically “Covid-19” and are present in dozens of sequences of the human genome and in those of about a hundred microbes.

        3. “Positive” results can therefore not be found for a virus that doesn’t exist.

        So the Mississippi officials are law of the UN that came out of Nuremberg trials, etc. regarding people’s autonomy. With hundreds of people asking for trials and pleading not guilty the Mississippi judicial system would grind to a halt. And with no quick and speedy trials, people would be let go.

        It would be a media circus.

        Just a point about commitment to non violent resistance.

      13. When I ragged you the other day?

        You know, EJ, your misogynistic references only reveal your lack of confidence as a man.
        Hell, I’m more of a man than you are.

  8. Don, there is plenty of evidence. You are choosing to ignore it or are not looking at the videos. And, WHY does the plane have to be in Afghanistan?
    It’s staged for obvious reasons….the main one being right now, to distract from the ‘vid take down.

    Take a close look:

    As far as all those people in the plane is concerned. I posted a bust of that also. The C-17 is 18 feet across. Someone counted the heads across the plane (I posted it earlier…see if YOU can find it) and there were 18 – 25 bodies across the interior width.
    That would mean less than 1 feet (the poster said .5 feet)..physically impossible unless they were all Mini-Afghani’s.


    1. I thought there was something wrong with the jet video from the beginning. As backward as that place is, the deafening sound of jet turbines without industrial strength ear shielding is a dead giveaway of a staged for the cameras event. So did the man that was flapping his arms, not at the pilot, but for the cameraman! It reminded me of the George Floyd video from the opposite side of the street, the far away view. It showed no body filming from the close up view nearer to the action. That’s how they make movies! The opposing cameraman is never shown when the perspective flips 180 degrees.

      1. Absolutely staged…no doubt. So, interestingly enough, I searched for images of the C-17 and after about ten pages, I gave up as i could not find one from the right side. Coincidence? I doubt it. BUT, there is a shot of a real C-17 and the inflatable side by side somewhere on this blog…I posted it…so someone found a pic…twas not i.

      2. Inflatable planes have a certain odd appearance. If that huge C-17 is an inflatable it looks like no other blowup plane ever seen on this planet. Where are the usual construction seams in the vinyl?


  9. This is an incredibly important message from Rappoport and a video with RFK Jr. speaking of his relationship with Trump early on in his presidency. 12 minutes

    Yes, Trump did tell RFK Jr. to investigate vaccine dangers—and why it matters

    August 23, 2021

    In this explosive 12 minute Theo Von video interview with Robert Kennedy Jr., we get details of the 2016 Trump-Kennedy meeting, at which Trump gave Kennedy the go-ahead to investigate vaccine dangers.

    This isn’t simply “setting the record straight” on what went down. The latest official figures on autism? 1 in 54 American children are autistic. So we are talking about the MASSIVE destruction of life, and the ongoing internal destruction of the country.

    Investigating and detailing the role vaccines play in this horrific reality should be the highest priority.

    Robert Kennedy, in the video interview, explains that shortly after Trump was elected in November of 2016, the new president contacted him (Kennedy) and invited him for a meeting at Trump Tower in New York.

    During the two-hour sit-down with Trump, Kennedy explained that a comprehensive investigation of vaccines could be done without any heavy lifting by government. There was a well-known Vaccine Safety Datalink which, when opened, would give independent researchers access to a vast trove of US medical records. From those records, a convincing case could be made about vaccine safety/dangers.

    Trump gave Kennedy the green light to move ahead.

    However, roadblocks then appeared.

    Access to the Vaccine Safety Datalink and the medical records was severely limited. Two independent investigators were confined to one room—with only pencil and paper—to study medical records. The room was intentionally overheated to a temperature of 105. No copying-machine use was permitted.

    Then Pfizer made a million-dollar contribution to Trump’s inauguration.

    Then Trump made two grotesque appointments to his new administration—Scott Gottlieb as FDA commissioner, and Alex Azar as head of Health and Human Services. Both men had heavy pharmaceutical industry connections. Azar had served as chief of US Eli Lilly, and had sat on the board of the pharma trade group, the Biotechnology Innovation Organization. Scott Gottlieb was a director at Tolero Pharmaceuticals and the giant drug company, Daiichi Sankyo. He also worked for Glaxo; and now, in 2021, after his stint as FDA commissioner, Gottlieb sits on the board of Pfizer.

    Robert Kennedy’s vaccine investigation was shut down.

    Did Kennedy then reach out directly to President Trump, to try to reignite the vaccine probe? The video interview doesn’t address this.

    Did Trump ever explain why he allowed Kennedy’s investigation to crash and burn? Or why, at the 2016 New York meeting, he told Kennedy to announce the formation of the vaccine investigation, instead of announcing it himself, as the new President? Not to my knowledge.

    One other thing. In this video interview, Kennedy says the man who keeps the vital Vaccine Safety Datalink, and all the medical information it leads to, shut down and away from independent investigators, is…

    Anthony Fauci.

    Once upon a time in the Empire, all roads led to Rome. Now they lead to the Good Doctor, and onward to Bill Gates.

    1. Will Two:

      You can see that in 1970 autism was 1 in 10,000. See graphic>>>>>

      Vaxing kids with 30 vaxxines when they’re toddlers has become a nightmare.

      Of course big pharma earns BILLIONS from vaxxines.


      1. Almost all elementary schools now have at least one full classroom devoted to kids that have been damaged by vaccines. BTW, these injuries are for life. Child vaccination continues at warp speed and now gawd forbid its been extended to the entire population.

        Big pharma got away with it with kids, so why not the entire f’ing population.
        Bring on the deathvaxes.!!!!

    2. To add to my post from Rappoport and the video interview of RFK Jr. at 7:43 AM today…
      Go to about 15 minutes on the following video to hear Gates warn TRUMP about investigating the side effects of vaccinations. This was AFTER Kennedy’s interview with Trump. Seems to me GATES backed Trump down. THEN, we have Trump’s recent speech in Alabama, ONCE AGAIN TOUTING THE VACCINE. Does anyone here really wish to have a vax pusher back in office??
      Think twice.

      Trump in Alabama

      Don…There is no doubt vaccines have caused autism, but they have also caused a myriad of other diseases….allergies, skin disorders,. auto-immune problems……on and on. The problem being that it can never be proved in a court of law and certainly not at this point, since the courts are now under communist control AND the United States government as such no longer exists.

      Fetz said it today on the Raw Deal….WE ARE ON OUR OWN!!….and we had better fucking do something about it SOON!

  10. We have seen the incrimental attack on language for a long time. Movies like West Side Story and all the “teen” movies of the 60’s or Stallone’s Demolition Man from 1993 or the push for the ridiculously stupid “ebonics” in music, etc.

    Now we have “Birthing Persons” and idiots chosing their pronouns like ze/zir/zirs and queer resource centers
    [ ] advising:

    >>When a person introduces themselves to you with their pronouns, they’ll normally pronounce it themselves. However, don’t be afraid to ask.>>
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    If there was EVER any doubt that humanity is in a controlled evolutionary change, here is a way to attack them with humor. Here is how The Wisconsin State Journal approached the nonsense:

    >>Now that Dane County Sheriff Kalvin Barrett has proclaimed

    [ ]

    that jail inmates will be called “residents” from here on out, so as not to stigmatize and dehumanize them, we have a few humble renaming suggestions for him to consider. [ ]

    1. Call the Jail the ‘Dane County Residence Inn’

    2. Name Sheriff Kalvin Barrett the ‘Property Manager’ & the Sheriff’s Department the ‘Dane County Leasing Office’

    3. Change the Word ‘Bail’ to Security Deposit

    4. Inmate Release? Nah, ‘Check Out Time’

    5. Exercise Time? It’s spa time at the Dane County Residence Inn!

    6. Correctional Guards or Jailers?

    Call them camp counselors. That says it all. Come to think of it, the sheriff could call residents “campers” instead. Has a nicer feel.

    7. Sentencing Sounds Pretty Harsh. How About, Lease Agreement or Reservation?

    Why stop there? Maybe crimes need renaming too. They sound so mean. And no one convicted of them will have self-esteem if people find out. Theft is income redistribution for the needy. Murder is committed by the anger management challenged. And so on. Oh, never mind.>>
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    A good Sunday smile 🙂

    1. Taking it further, let us call indictments, “possibilities”; prosecution, “relocation”; incarcerations,
      “vacations”; life sentences, “a time away”; the gallows, “a stretch of the imagination”; electrocution, “ultimate stimulation”; the gas chamber, “air replacement” and lethal injection, “THE VAX!”

      1. There is no evidence that any inflatable planes are in Afghanistan. There could be but I’ve seen none.

        No one has posted any evidence that the interior photos of the C-17 have been photoshopped. People have speculated that but no one has posted any evidence of such.


      2. Don, I am posting this again since it got in the wrong place and I don’t want you to miss it:

        Don, there is plenty of evidence. You are choosing to ignore it or are not looking at the videos. And, WHY does the plane have to be in Afghanistan?
        It’s staged for obvious reasons….the main one being right now, to distract from the ‘vid take down.

        Take a close look:

        As far as all those people in the plane is concerned. I posted a bust of that also. The C-17 is 18 feet across. Someone counted the heads across the plane (I posted it earlier…see if YOU can find it) and there were 18 – 25 bodies across the interior width.
        That would mean less than 1 feet (the poster said .5 feet)..physically impossible unless they were all Mini-Afghani’s.


    1. >>There is no evidence that any inflatable planes are in Afghanistan. There could be but I’ve seen none.>>

      Apparently you didn’t go to the links I posted??

      >>No one has posted any evidence that the interior photos of the C-17 have been photoshopped. People have speculated that but no one has posted any evidence of such.>>

      Do some research starting with the links I offered Don or remain in Egypt in “D Nile.”

      1. Ummm…Being the curious man I am, am i the only one perplexed by this exchange between Don and Don??

  11. Several US Presidents have said that the US occupation of Afghanistan was because it was the center of the attack on 9/11. This is a total lie, 9/11 was created by the Israeli Mossad with the help of US cooperation.
    There were no planes on 9/11….the Twin Towers were brought down by nukes in the basements of the Towers.

    Many US soldiers have said that all they did in Afghanistan was guard poppy fields. Those poppies are the source of heroin.


    1. Yep ! Been there done that! Two combat tours there. Four brothers in arms died. Just more psychological operations for the brain dead. The Taliban is in our country. Wait and see.

      1. Jim…Have you looked for alternative sources of Ivermectin? I know it’s used by veterinarians.

      2. I am pretty sure Tractor Supply has it OTC….obviously, you just need to take the correct dosage.

  12. Jim, I re-registered. I’ll post what I sent you. Thanks.


>>The United States sent in a raiding party to capture Osama bin Laden following 9/11/2001 and then…>>

    When someone starts off an article with a well known outright lie it puts up a warning flag for me. These are times when the power of words is coming under critical thinking scrutiny no matter who mouths them. Osama died the end of December, 2001 in Tora Bora and was privately buried

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
>>…like “the man who came to dinner,” remained for 20 years – just long enough to keep rekindling an endless civil war, install its proxies, and then leave the nation to rot. >>

    You fail to note that this was the intention of the controllers…to go after the lithium and other precious elements as well as setting up a protection for the poppy fields (heroin trade.)
- – – – – – – – – – – – – – -

    >>Acting precipitously in the aftermath of the attack on the Twin Towers first led the United States into the quagmire, and the war was lost as soon as the failed kidnapping made way for a full-scale invasion.>>

Simply nonsense, mouthing the amended history of the controllers with no reference be it with quotes or words that the “attack” was indeed an “inside job” by Israel and its sold out American government, media, etc. is outright propaganda.
- – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
You are presenting an article with much the same 80/20 (truth/lies) as an Alex Jones and others. EG:

    >>As with the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria, America’s civilian government was constantly misled by a mendacious and self-interested military establishment…

    The “civilian” government was just as azz deep in the lie. You are creating an us/them dichotomy that is not true. It was ALL the government and military against the civilians.
- – – – – – – – – – – – – – -

    >>The United States went into Afghanistan nominally allied with sixty nations and under cover from the United Nations, which legitimated its attempt to capture Osama bin Laden as an example of self-defense.>>

    [I’ll comment on that and end my observations of your misinformation, just tired of all the insanity of the inability to find truth and facts in the press, etc. :-/]

    The US went into Afghanistan under a lie, that we were “attacked” by some 18th Century evil Muslims led by a man in a cave on a lap top who were able to outplay the most well equipped military in the world, and the lie played on the sympathies of loss of life, etc.

    The “cover” of the UN was hardly beyond their evil, over all agenda of world domination, working from a building on land donated by the Sabatian Frankist Rockefeller’s with their Wildlife Project and other programs of conquest.Like far too many “journalists” these days the “reporting” is about playing on emotions and feelings and not facts and truth. Sad

  13. One must laugh a bitter sardonic laugh at the media pundits talking about the “failed strategy” in Afghanistan. Failed strategy? It was a blatant and damnable war crime. You can’t base a sound strategy on pure evil. The invasion and occupation of Afghanistan — just as Iraq, Syria, Viet Nam, etc. — was a concocted, propagandized, indefensible use of American troops to dominate the region for profit and control. It was committed by bribed and blackmailed stooges of the New World Order in our government and military to promote the takeover of the planet by Satanic opportunists. In other words, it was just an extension of what the New World Order is doing to all of us and our children and our future generations through our prostitutes and presstitutes in office with the covid scamdemic and other damnable atrocities. Until we print our own money, those who do so without audit and use it to bribe and blackmail our “leaders” will continue to exploit and destroy us all until they turn us into robotic immoral slaves. The solution? Stand up and resist, Americans! And urge everyone you know to do likewise. Now is the time for the Second American Revolution!

    1. Good, strong words Joesph.

      Quite likely a great majority of our friends and relatives and fellow citizens are victims of the incredibly brilliant sociopathic controllers decades of propaganda through the “machine” of media, TV, movies, computer games, publishing houses, etc. who all participate, either from nefarious compliance or just basic greed.

      The unarmed Aussies are standing tall as they can today as well as many European folks, but alas, there is a great difficulty in waking folks up here. Most likelly since we have been so deep asleep with all the trinkets and toys and shiny stuff.

      Since my birthday in March I have been averaging about 50 views a day on BitChute, pumping out words of truth and resistance as best I can with one mic, a guitar and a cassette recorder :-)) Not like the “old days” for sure.


  14. A few recent articles from ICH…a place I formerly frequented as a blogger until I was thrown off for telling TOO MUCH TRUTH. First, the figures at the top of their page:

    Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq “1,455,590”

    Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801

    Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 3,487

    Total Cost of U.S. Wars Since 2001


    The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan back with a bang
    Afghan Lesson For Uncle Sam’s Running Dogs
    How the US military got rich from Afghanistan

    The U.S. Government Lied For Two Decades About Afghanistan

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